OH NO!!!! Now I have to go count.....need to take my shoes off for that.....
BRB!!!

Okay, I have a total of 36 plants right now. I am trying to grow to clone and plant outside with some mothers inside. I still also have more seeds to start but want to get my flower area going first. I am going to clone BEFORE sexing and then eliminate the males once sexed. If you wish the breakdown I can type that in also.

Lif,
j-angel

Wow Jangle that is a BIG first grow....but my first grow was similar 'cept I used all the same strain (now I prefer smaller grows)....if you have the time and are fairly serious as you clearly are...I am sure you will do very well indeed....I guess you will have about 18 females....do you plan on saving any pollen?....or is seed access and price no problem?...I admire your ambition and look forward to following along...so far it seem more like "What to do 201" I am glad you are getting advice from Video...he seems to have a very practical approach that emphasizes results, simplicity, and economy...Keep up the great work.

Why thank you very much. As I said I usually jump in feet first then figure it out as I go. I have been making it a job studieing this so I just hope it works. I am debating wether to save a male from each or a clone to keep the seeds coming but I am of 2 minds on this. I might just try to pollenate a branch on each, with a paintbrush. How long does pollen last and is it viable for a long time or limited to right then?

Life
j-angel

it can be stored cool dry and dark for at least a year or more similar to seeds

That is really interesting. I pollenate my hydro tomatoes the same way. I did not know I could store my pollen. Jangel I can imagine what your place is going to smell like in a few months. what's your order control plan?

We are thinking of making a box filter with activated charcoal in the layers for one, or videoman's pail one I want to try first. I am going to see if I can find ONA up here in Canada. it seems the simplist to start with and if it works then hey! done! It is a pretty much sealed room right now but it might get warm once the weather warms up. They smell real pretty now! And temps are staying about 74 so no need to do nothin yet. Got the vent holes cut. and ready just need a few feet of piping to finish them. Thanks for asking. It is an evolving experiance.

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j-angel

your gonna have a lot of work on your hands when the get a bit bigger i,ve got about 15 clones going in soil and have a bad back and damn i hate watering but

One thing you have to keep in mind: I am growing most of these to be planted outside. So what looks like large numbers now, unsexed, won't be that large once outside. Hopefully there will be a goodly number of girls so we will see.

Okay, to the update folks!

Here are some pictures of the 15 that I almost killed. Take a look at the roots coming out of the bottom of the pots. I know they need potting up but have to wait till tomorrow when I have time without anyone else around to do them, plus I am almost out of RO water and will get more today. You have to have a lot of water for repotting to water them in well. So tomorrow they will get potted up.

Also, take a look at some of the leaves: I am not sure if this is a missing cal/mg deficncy or if it is just because they have depleted the nutes in the soil. Not all of them have this and they also looked a lighter green colour. I fed them all when I saw this and by the next day they looked better so I think it is they are needing fresh soil. What do you guys out there think? It is noticeble on the Ambrosia the most. This seems to be a sensitive variety.

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Now, here are some pictures of the nursery plants. They too needed potting up. I did them all on friday. Here is the Lethal Purple. They are doing very well and tall with good root growth. I put them under the big light. They love it. Also, all the plants are now out of the closet and into the big room.

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Here are some shots of them all repotted up under the T-5 flouro.

Now this is something I figured out to give me a couple inches or whatever I want to get them closer to the lights. I fill a bag with newspapers,(I use two, side by side) must be a tight fitting bag, then as the plants grow I take out the newspapers to lower the plants, without having to fool with anything else. It is simple, recyclable, and if you don't need them, into the recycler they go till you need to collect a new batch. It works for me.

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Also, I have had such good growth on the first 15 I have started to take clones! I am using green_nobody's water cloning method with a few alterations.

In my enthusiasm I had both gel and powder cloning compounds on hand and having read that the gel tends to block the pores of the plants I used the powder but thought I would try mixing a bit of the gel into the water to root the clones in. I don't know that it will make a difference but it can't hurt. I took 2 from a Kish and 3 from a Dutch Treat X Northern Lights. This little Kish is doing so well! Here is it side by side with what it used to look like and now:

For my clones I have them under a dome with a metal cookie sheet ontop of a heating pad to supply heat. I have a cfl spot light trained on the wall behind them, in front of the dome so it is not hot on them, and have cracked the dome a bit to give them fresh air. Seems to keep the heat at about 89 with lots of moisture and they have not wilted or anything, are staying nice and green. I took these Saturday so lets see how long till they get roots! I will add to this as the side shoots grow. Once I have some from each I will put them all to flower(the mothers) and sex them. Hopefully by the end of May I will have quite a few to put outside.

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Next I will give you a look at the Nepali Grizzly. These have done stupendously. Planted as germinated seeds March 30 they will need potting up, in about a week. This will be their second potting up. I think they will catch up to the first 15 soon. Also a pic of the vent holes, which are more along NOW from when the pic was taken, and the temp which is staying in the mid 70's. Highest has been 79 so far. My man also had a laser temp gauge which is really kewl as it tells the temp of the leaves under the lights. Nice to have a techie around! The only thing I can see being a problem is the humidity as I have had it up to 70% but I have a dehumidifier on standby and I know this is not a real problem till they go into flower. I am watching it though. I also have a lot of volunteer lady bugs! I usually have them dorment in my house for some reason, and in my screened front porch which is the concrete roof for this room. They seem quite happy and can't see them being a problem!

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Now for my wierd one, the Y2K. This is the genus I have had major problems with. Not sure if it is not a stable variety or what the story is here. I had a total of 11 of these beans. I tried and tried to germinate these and only had success with the last two beans. One looks like a mutant so we will see. It seems healthy, just distorted leaves. Anyone have a clue on these?

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Hey my Angel,
You Rock in more ways than one. Can't wait to see what you get.
Can I call you Angel since your mine???

Why thank you, mysmokie, but you just ain't my type! LOL! Just kidding sweetie. I am flattered. You can call me whatever you want, just not stupid please! LOL! Hope you like what you see, and by the way, how are things going with your family? PM me if you wish to talk.

Life,
j-angel

Hey Jangel Good morning,Your baby look good.On a couple of the bigger girls I see the tips a little burned,not bad.Using R/O water check the ppm,it should be well under 100 ppm's and you will need cal-mag with R/O water.Here's something I learned the hard way,when using cal-mag it has 2% nitrogen in it.In the young plants it easy to burn them rigth off,I cut back just a little on the nitrogen{grow}.Here's week 1 for two gals water mix on my feeding chart from GH,10ml grow-5ml mirco-6ml bloom,I adjust for the cal-mag by lessening the grow mls,it says 10 ml I use 8mls.This way I dont burn the girls.I used distilled water in my hydro when I first started and then to spring water and now I just filter the tap water with a ice maker filter,The ppm's after filtered is 145.Young plants I would use spring water,it has some cal and mag in it and it dose the plants good.You are doing a great job with that many plants at start up.You got a good plan going keep it up. PEACE

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OKAY TOKE!!! Take it slowly. You are under the impression I have a clue what I am doing and know what you are talking about. I DON"T have the foggiest! First off I do not have a ph meter and am having a hard time getting one it this burb but have to do that this week. I have no way to measure parts per million. I have checked ph with hot tub strips and it is at 6.8 for what I feed them.

Next what do I get to give them cal/mag? I gave them some Musky, which is fish emulsion, some molasses, and a 1/4 of the recommended FF Big Bloom. When I potted the first 15 up I could not find bone meal yet so I top dressed them about a week later with it. I also gave them a couple of drops of Super thrive yesterday. And a half tbs of epsom salts per 2 gal. It seemed to help and they looked greener not as lime green in a day. I am using everything 1/4 to half strength. I know it is not nute burn as I have just been using RO water for the 3 previous waterings.

Please let me know what to get for cal/mg .

Thanks for your help Toke.

Life,
j-angel

p.s. here is a pic of my nute cupboard. Sorry vid man, just not up to yet doing it your way and no idea where to get superswellbatguano here in Canada. Hopefully soon I will be able to launch a clone in your nute recipe if I ever get all the ingredients.

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Hey Jangel Sorry for going to fast.What you are doing is great.epsom salt is mag,and it will green them up.The fish stuff is good too it alot of what the plant needs in it.Keep doing what you are doing it works.Cal-mag and cal- mag plus is made by botanicare,it's a refinded calcium and magnesium.Just try to keep the PH between 6.4 and 6.8 and you should be fine.Keep up the good work it paying off. PEACE

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Hi Folks. I thought I had a lot a lot of girls but it turns out no, I was too hasty in judging sex. Every day I find more Nads! That is okay though. I was expecting that and that is why I have so many of each. So far I have found 5 boys out of 15 and possibly more. It can get confusing. I have even got some of the other younger plants that where germed and planted March 30th showing sex! I don't know why, but hey, I will take it. So far I have 3 out of 5 males from the Nepali Grizzely. And also 2 out of 4 of the Lethal Purple are boys. Anybody know why plants so young are showing sex? Am I doing something wrong or right? ALL my plants are on 24 hours light. They are growing very well, never been neglected even once. Oh well.

Anyway, since they are growing so well I needed to make up my veg spot and in order to do this and make them easy to care for I had my man remove a shelf in the room. I do not have the best back so this way they are at hip level, easy to care for and I can see and adjust the lights daily if I want to. I have now my T-5 installed there and I put it in deliberatly on an angle so that the taller plants would get light as well as the shorter ones. Some of the shorter ones I raised up on pots. The ones in the yogurt containers need potting up so will do this possibly today. Getting the males out has given me more room to move them around. I also have a fixture of cfl's hanging there to give the side growth on the taller plants side light. They look to be loving it! Also a few cfl spots in there. These right now are on some males I am watching to learn about this. Hold on and I will put up the pics.

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