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Old 07-13-2008, 10:33 AM   #121 (permalink)
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Once I got down to repotting I saw clearly what the problem was. At the bottom, the roots had not really gone into the soil. The roots where not what I have seen in the past. They looked thinner, not as white, some brown, and no penatration into the bottom bit of soil. It was like there was an apple shaped spot the roots had not penetrated. As I water mostly along the sides, to encourage the new roots to go there, they had good roots there, where the new soil was thin. The bottom was horrible.
It had to go. So what I did was set up a container for the bad soil. I watered them very well the day before, and then used a container with something to keep them above the runnoff. This is all to be discarded into my flower bed later. The roots where also full in the pots so of course, Me being a dunder head, should of known this as it has been almost a month since they where repotted. They where all pot bound. No wonder they looked so sick! Light dawns over marble head! The reason they looked like they lacked SOMETHING! They lacked SOIL!!!! Hence EVERYTHING!

As I have said before. IF you have good roots, your plants have good feet, without that, they cannot thrive.

GOOD SOIL = GOOD ROOTS = HEALTHY PLANTS

You cannot have one without the other. That is it in a nutshell.

Okay, here are some shots of what the plants looked like, will get to the roots next. Take note of how I strip these girls down. You have to almost tickle the soil out of the bottom. GENTLY. You can tell where the bad soil was as it came off the wet plants easily, with very little roots in it. The ones that where there, where thin and not plentiful. I will just show these all in order so you can see how the plants came out after and how the roots looked. This is plant 1, 2 and 3. I have repotted my big girls into 2 to 5 gal. pails with holes in them. (I use a soldering iron for doing this Warnging! Do this outside as it is bad for you!) LOTS of holes and some along the sides as well.
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The last of 3.

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Same thing with all the clones. This took me a couple of days to do. I have 26 clones, I think! and 5 large plants I am putting to flower next week. I plan on picking my mothers from these clones and that will be in a couple of days once they have calmed down from repotting. I have taken most of the damaged leaves off. These will just slow down the growth of the plant, trying to repair them and you do not want that. Better for them to grow healthy new leaves. I also have to take off the lower branches and start some more clones. But they are stressed enough for now.

I am aiming for a perpetual inside grow. I wish to have 8 mothers, all my genetic base, to carry on and keep going. I also have a 9th type, which from all 11 seeds all I got where males. So I wish to save this genus as well. Not sure what I will cross this with. I have a big plant outside, that I am waiting to get to the point of saving pollen.

Okay, here we go. First couple of shots are of the clones in my veg area. Then replanting them. You can see the layers of soil and how the roots have not gone into the new soil. Not good at all.

When doing this make sure you spread the roots out. With these I raised up the middle of the soil, in an apple shape to fit in where the hollow was from the bad soil. Then I firmed the soil gently around the roots along the sides, so there would be no air pockets in the soil. Do this gently but firmly. You don't want it packed down like for a sub basement! You need the air to still get in and the roots to grow into the soil. Then I watered very well, flooded them, with some FF big bloom and some fish type fertilizer to help them develope new roots, till the water came out the bottom freely. Take note of that wieght. It is what you need to know when you water them, that wieghtie feel tells you they are well watered.

DO NOT DO THIS IF YOU HAVE BIG FEARS. IT IS AN ADVANCED TECHNIQUE. I have worked with plants all my life so I know what I am doing. This is a desperate thing to do, and not reccommended at all.

Last few shots are of the larger clones in the veg area that have been replanted. I have 11 of them.

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Here is a shot of the big girls before and then 2 of after. There are also clones in there. I have also rearranged my flowering area, took the legs off the table and put plastic milk crates under to lower it so I will have enough head room for the hieght I hope to get. Also, my vortex 6 inch exhaust fan is up and running. My man had this square vent he had got from somewhere and it works just fine! I wish to make a odour scrubber out of the square box like thing before the fan. It is on a T connection so we can also vent the other side. Right now the veg area is maintaining a 72 to 78 degree temp so it is not needed.

Also see the clones in the flower area, the last couple of shots, also replanted.

And the last shot is of all the pots from the first day of replanting. I had 2 more big girls to do and 11 clones as well.

I get cold passive air from our garage for the flower area and the exhaust vents out the window to the front. I am having a hard time with noise. You can here the exhaust fan in the garage and the front of the house. Any suggestions? HELP!!!

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I knew these where not stopping flowering but am wondering if they will continue to grow and get bigger as they flower. Here's my lolly pops clones! These are Nepali Grizzly.
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Last shot for your veiwing pleasure, a little Bud Porn! Nepalu Grizzly girl cut to clone May 16th.




P.S. ALL look as if they will survive and are all much better now. I will post pics in a few days when they are showing more growth.

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Looks like you've been busy, jangel. One note on your fan; you would get much better air-flow if you had a curved duct, instead of the 90 degree "T". For every sharp 90 degree turn in the ducting, you lose 50% of the remaining air-flow. Sharp turns create turbulence, which makes the fan work harder. Just a thought.

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Looks like you've been busy, jangel. One note on your fan; you would get much better air-flow if you had a curved duct, instead of the 90 degree "T". For every sharp 90 degree turn in the ducting, you lose 50% of the remaining air-flow. Sharp turns create turbulence, which makes the fan work harder. Just a thought.

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We would do that Pappy, but there is not the room. The opening comes out at least 8 inches in front of the fan, and it is drawing well, keeping temps down. As it is we had to switch the wall around to get that in, and make the bigger side the wall side, instead of the door.
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Hey, as long as it serves the purpose. Looks like all will be fine.


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Hey Jangel, they have a product called SM-90.It would help you out alot with your girls.It's a multi purpose wetting agent.It dose a few things to help the roots with up take and figths off root disease and inproves the lateral movment of moisture in soil.It's a good product to have.You trans plant to the out doors this would help at that time of watering them in and later on a foliar spray.Good stuff,I'am adding it to my res.SM-90 by Nutrilife check it out. Peace
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