Matanuska Thunder****

Kieahtoka

Also as I've noticed, stressing a full female to make bananas usually results in your females having more hermies than your males. I did have a male of this strain go hermie on me, and has given me females that ALWAYS stay females, and males that ALWAYS reverse, but this is better than getting herm fems.

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MR DONTH8

if your saying that theres no pure male to pollinate the ATF then cool, its a clone only, but you said yourself that light stressing gave you a good male that femmed over and made very strong ladies. so how can you say I am wrong, when you just confirmed my method of reproduction of a clone only strain? its no biggie to me. but be assured I dont go through knock seed banks or seed banks in general unless someone i know goes in person. most of my stuff is from clones, and I know that they did this method to reproduce it. True, i am not my dad. and a seed from a selved plant isn't its parent, but technically speaking, its a seed from a clone only plant. why would i not get the benefit of the doubt as to my selection of plants, isn't obvious i know what a hermi is....

Kieahtoka

yeah you know what a hermie is, but you misread my post. I NEVER EVER use light stress or ANY stress for seeds. I tried this once, and have decided never again.I believe you have selfed ATF seeds, but IMHO I wouldn't use them especially it 50-80% are hermies.

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MR DONTH8

Lets keep it real here, since im always told im wrong but then what i say is just reiterated. There is no True Matanuska VTF or ATF- it was lost a long time ago in a police raids. it was said to have been growing wild in Mvalley but didn't mature until first frost, and was also grown by local trappers. supposedly no true pure ATF or MTVF survived as ATF is what MTVF is reffered to outside of Alaska, and then theres people who argue theres no such cannabis plant that could a survived in Alaska throughout the year. I beg to differ that because i have seen and smoke fairly good wild Indian hemp in Nebraska that had to have survived at least 50years at that time, through -40degrees plus windshield winters so its possible, but not likely any of our so call Alaskan or Matanuskan strains are the pure original thing. no harm intended, i just wanna ,medicate and have good conversation so if i offend any1 my apologies.:??:

Mogie

ATF is only available by clone not seed. It is supposed to be derived from a twenty year old Rock Creek ThunderF@$^ in the Kootenays.

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Kieahtoka

you arent offending anyone, I don't think lol. I've heard so many different stories about ATF. I usually just blow a lot of them off as urban legends. I know the original ATF was lost, which is why it is clone only.

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http://www.greenpassion.org/showthread.php?t=1373

My Creation.
http://www.greenpassion.org/f24/my-creations-4909/

MR DONTH8

I am too the point where with this particular strain, its really a myth thing, and we will never agree as someone here mentioned ATF is Kootenay thunder LOL and the likes. But as for the selving goes, i dont know if it was your older post or not but i did read a post on here from someone else whom mentioned my method and whom menitoned a Silver concoction, both seemed to work but my method was shown as very inferior and the explanation made sense to me, I have just have good luck with mine. My point was the offspring is that of that, and I only use females, not Hermes it may be difficult to go through and find the good ones but it can be done. especially if your like me and have access to plenty of outdoor to work with. The matanuska cut i have i aquired because i told the guy, i have only had ATF once in Tacoma washington as a younger man, and from what i knew that could have been anything, I was under the impression that Soma or Sagarmatha had the Matanuska that was closest related to MTVF but the cut I got is called MTVF an d there was a really big stank over it a few years ago as to its validity. but northwesterns, well, we claim easy access to a lot of strains over here. Same kinda issue with Maui Wowi. My strain is kinda choco smelling but very perfumy too. and it doesn't alternate nodes, theres just 2 buds, then 2 buds, then main cola bud type growth. we'll see when ours are done, we will start the flower monday. and might i add a lot of med growers here dont even bother to cure so I know it couldve been different to the ole factory after that.

Mogie

You are right there is probably no true strain left. What I call ATF is probably, at the best, once originally that but has since had it's "gene pool" polluted.

How can you compare what we have now against legend? You can't. But what I have is some of the best smoke I've ever had. I guess good is good no matter what name it is.

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MR DONTH8

I totally agree. and hey even if its called ATF and MTVF now thats what they will be known as. can't get that 1991 Micahael Jordan back..

Mogie

Very true.

Know of any killer new strains out there?

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