Just a little bag seed grow to get good bud/seed

meigs_OH_raised

This is my this is my fourth grow this year. The last one I flushed down the potty about a month ago because I had to call Leo to my home to remove someone from my front door. It was the last of my NL seed. I was planning to seed the female. That grow was going very well. I was mad to say the least...anywho. The second one was JH, it turned out pretty good after I saved it from time release MG potting soil. First one was NL and not a good grow. One plant struggled to grow a quarter oz. So I think I've come a long way since then, with the help of everyone here. This is a great place to learn the ins/outs of growing MJ.

Well I have 6 plants going, well 5, all ready axed one, male runt.

This was 2.5 weeks veg under daylight CFLs, started under 400hps.
Soil is just Hyponex or similar/perlite/bone meal. I like it very airy.
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This was 3.5 weeks doing 12.5 hrs of light
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The males started to show themselves of course. Four of them. I plan on seeding one of the females. At least I'm pretty sure they are females. One has a few hairs starting the other plant doesn't look like male parts at all. I'm guessing I'll know for sure by the end of this weekend. Just feed them some bat poo yesterday...they looked hungry. I plan on transplanting to their big pot this weekend and I need to figure out the male I'm going to use for pollen. Maybe you guys could help me decide. I know, "Its whichever one I like". Turns out I kinda like all three.

M1 : He was a fast grower, large fan leaves/stem, showed his stuff first.
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M2 : He was bushy, purple attributes, very wide fans, some oddities on the 3 leaf set of leaves.
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M3 : He really puffed out this last week, the tallest, bushy, similar to the female in smell and plant structure.
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I really would like to create my own strain in time. But as of now, I don't know what the female will be like yet. My next grow I'm thinking Citral. I got four seeds left, haven't been able to get any of the other six to pop. That is all I got for now. Any input would be appreciated.

Peace

ileso

ill tell you what i'd do ...

id grab 1 female and pollinate three branches with the three males..
the first male cause of the early flowering, its probably faster coming on,
the second for the triple ramifications as opposed to the normal twin ramifications, this would mean in future more weight per plant (+ 50%)!!! if you can get those genes through to the second and third generations, you have a winner!
the third for its obvious growth and smell characteristics...

i understand ya when you say you cant decide... but if i had to ditch one , id ditch the first of the three, its the only one without real special characteristics...and polinate two branches with the last two...

did i confuse you?

peace
ileso

meigs_OH_raised

No not confused...I didn't think of it that way, I'll definatly be thinking about it now.

Thanks,
Peace

meigs_OH_raised

So, I took ileso's advice and decided to attemp that pollen catching adventure. So I got out a light, drilled a hole three plastic plates, cut a slit to slide the top into the hole, labeled, filled a medium size cup with water/superthrive, placed the pot top in plate, then that into the water, set timer for 11 hours light. Thinking of a way to keep the pollen from mixing...thinking sections of a 2-liter?
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My possible females were not responding to the feeding. I suspect it had out grew its pot. Noticing the male's roots was coming out of the bottom of the pot.Transplanted/heavly watered, Spread her out with some bag ties with little holes drilled the top of pot, set in front of side mounted aquarium light.
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Got to thinking this would be a neat little experiment. It would take months to bring three diff male types on one female type. But to see what changes occur would be interesting to see unfold.

Peace

scott06

I love when any us actually try an experiment rather than conjecture what would happen or try to find some reliable advise....if you have the time and inclination Meigs...go for it...long live the emperical method

Brussels

Meigs, for hard to pop beans, I do this: I'll take a small fingernail file, and score the pointed end of the seed, just a little, right along the seam that opens. Next I place them in a little glass vile with water in it, and let them soak a day in a dark place. floating them in a glass will work. Afterwards, just use normal germ procedures that work for you. I have to do this with my hard to crack mexi gold seeds, and it sure helps.
As for males and pollen: after their flowers open and spread out, pollen is already in the air. it's possible for them to transfer pollen to one another -- not a good idea for exacting crosses. Are you able to put your males outside? (privacy and space) I have a room in my house, away from my grow shed, where I mature males under three 65w cfl's. Just inside my 'male room', I also have a white tyvek painters coverall, and surgical room booties and latex gloves. I put them on when entering, and remove as I leave. Pollen can get everywhere. Occasionally, my outside plants will have a seed or three, and I'm certain someone else is growing within a half mile or so from me, or I have transfered unwanted pollen on my cloths.

I guess what I'm trying to say, is be careful dealing with pollen...
Brussels

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meigs_OH_raised

I have used that method for germing on this grow and with the Citral (with no success for the citral). I am limited to space for the pollen making...I'm planning/hoping to catch the release as it happens. Allthough, I'm thinking I may need to make three seperate homes for them for sure...thanks, peace

four two zero

I agree with ileso on using both the last two males. They each have the qualities you want and are the best in development as well.

I too would like to someday experiment with making my own strain so maybe you could be the inspiration. Keep us all posted on the outcome!

I'm not sure if I'm reading correctly but if those females you got are still in those small pots you should transplant now into some nice big ones at least double the size. If you transplant cleanly and carefully you should suffer no shock and those plants will explode to a big bush in no time. I always love the first week after transplanting because you get to see so much development in such short amount of time.

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meigs_OH_raised

Well, I went back and did a little research/reading on strains and breeding. Come to the conclusion, I don’t even know what kinda female I have. Or even have a female, still waiting. If they are female…they are different…which one do I want to build from? This is experimentation, for me. So, given I still have many seed from the “farm” this stuff come from. I figure I could find those males again, I have the rest of my life to do this. So, I’m limiting the pollen gathering to The 2nd male (M2). Which has lead me to some questions possible girls (in third week of 12 hrs a day light):
Given I probably started the flowering process to early and I’ve been super-cropping since the first set of 5 leaves. I question if didn’t give the plant enough time to build up energy to flower? The region where it came from? Would the inherited genes/climate of this plant require a longer veg time…then giving a larger plant for the farm, maybe? They seem healthy, growing well. I think If I would of veged another 2 weeks, flowered…they would be huge (At least huge for my space). I’ve noticed that the indoor strains that I have grown from a seed bank have flowered quicker than these, and I was fairly abusive to those strains too. Or are they just healing from the stem crushing…mid last week is when I last did it. I know the transplanting would probably be slowing it down so, I’m going to let them go pretty dry this week to get the roots to do some searching and adjust the bag ties as needed. See what happens this week.
Peace.

meigs_OH_raised