GreenGoblin's First Grow

justanotherbozo · 06-16-2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenGoblin

Thanks everyone. My two mystery seeds have sprouted so it's time to get moving!

Bozo - The bottom shelf is adjustable, and I just moved it way up closer to the lights. I will probably grab a few of those y splitters. I have one or two around here somewhere. I need a few more bulbs anyway. Speaking of bulbs...

jangel - I am runninng mostly Daylight bulbs. There is one 1600 lumen 2700k "Soft White" bulb in there right now. I am going to swap that for another daylight bulb when I pick some up later today. I read through those two posts a few days ago and it looks like I need between 1,000 - 2,000 lumen per square foot. Right now I have roughly 7.5 square feet of area in that chamber, so I need between 7500 --> 15000 of lumen. I currently have 5120 lumen in Daylight bulbs.

Pappy - Thanks for the recipe. I just popped two of my germinated seeds into some potting soil I had handy. It was a Miracle Grow organic. I am going to pick up some of the Hyponex, pearlite, etc for when I need to re-pot.

I added a small fan to the cabinet today and will be running out later to get an exhaust fan and some vents. I also moved some stuff around to better suit the grow and keep stuff out of the way.

I appreciate everyones input so far.
GreenGoblin

i'm sure you already know that the plants need both red and blue light throughout it's life cycle, just heavy in the blue for vegging (about 4 to 1, watt for watt) and heavy in the red for flowering (which is what HPS is, heavy in the red)
which is the long way of saying, don't take that 'warm' bulb out, just add more blue

GreenGoblin · 06-17-2008, 01:37 AM

Alright. I spent lots of time this evening on the veg box and wanted to post some updates. The box was indeed running hot, so I added a bathroom fan for exhaust and a vent to draw in cool air. The box still ran around 82 degrees. So.. I ripped out the vent, lowered the shelf and installed a window fan. I really like this set up so far. The fan has an "exchange" mode, so it will pull air in one fan an out the other. I can also have in draw in air only, or exhaust only. Also, there is a thermastat to boot.. so I *could* have it shut off at low temp. I also added a ton more lights. I am currently running the following CFLs.

8 x 1300 Lumen 23w "Daylight" bulbs
2 x 1600 Lumen 27w "Soft White"bulbs

So.. that should be 13,600 Lumen total for the veg room. Hopefully the temp stays down. I have to deal with the light bleeding from the cabinet. It's like ET is hiding in there!

Some pics:

kennkenniff · 06-17-2008, 02:30 AM

hey greengoblin looking like you've done your home work hrers my 2 cents , i use cfls for early veg about 3 weeks then i go right to the 400hps i,ve been doing this for years and i always get awesome harvests and beautiful veg cycle it is important to give the plants a variety of reds and blues but i find that as soon as i put my babies my babies under the awesome radiant power of the 400hps they just grow like crazy! while your babies are still small the cfls are great but to get the equal amount of lumens as a hid u need approx the same wattage of cfls and that gets expensive, i reccomed getting those bad boys under your 400 as soon as they get to be 6-8" tall and youll be able to cut more clones sooner and start flower sooner aswell, dont get me wrong i,ve seen a ton of people have great success with cfls but there such a pain with all the extra power bars and fixtures if you got the hid take advantage anyways thats my 2 cents looks like your on the right track

ISO2BWELL · 06-17-2008, 02:36 AM

Green, nice to see clean, detailed work. Very cool...it makes a place

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Suggestion: Those 2 CFL's in the hoods on the floor are useless right now in terms of lighting the plants. Also, you want to get those plants up, or the lights down. Last thing you want to do is stretch those babies out by them having to reach for that light up there.

Better yet, get the 400 installed once you figure a way to air cool it from outside the cab though the light and back out again, keeping all the heat outside the box.

Gonne be some sweet bud grown in that box...I can smell it already!

ISO

GreenGoblin · 06-17-2008, 02:54 PM

Thanks Folks! I raised the seedlings up closer to the lights and moved the reflector light up higher. I couldn't fit both reflector lights up high, so I am just going to grab another one of those "y splitters" and put two bulbs in one reflector light. Temperature has been a steady 78.

I am waiting for the two seedlings in dirt to break ground, but the other two sensi seeds don't seem to be germinating. I am not sure on the history on how these were stored, so it is possible they are no good.

GreenGoblin

the.fatman.cometh · 06-19-2008, 06:44 PM

Hey, greengoblin, looks like a good setup, mate!
I am curious though, what are the dimensions for the cab?
If you already posted that and I missed it, I apologize

GreenGoblin · 06-19-2008, 11:43 PM

Hey Fatman - Thanks for the interest in my make believe grow! The cabinet, if it existed, would measure 72"H x 30"W x 20"D. It was roughly $100. H-depot has another that is the same dimensions, except 48" wide. I would hypothetically use one of those for flowering in a few weeks and try my hand at a ScrOG.

Hobo · 06-19-2008, 11:49 PM

i have a few DIY tutorials on how to build your own hydroponic systems, one for top feed and 2 others for ebb and flow. they have links and pictures for all the materials you need, you can get all the supplies your looking for from our sponsors at HID hut.

GreenGoblin · 06-20-2008, 12:02 AM

Thanks Hobo - I am looking to do a hydro system, and am heavily considering a DWC for a first go. That being said, I really wanted to do a drip system, so I may have to look up that DIY tutorial of yours.

GreenGoblin

justanotherbozo · 06-20-2008, 10:32 AM

hey GreenG, the cab is coming along very nicely and i'm glad you decided to leave some red light in there.

and do yourself a favor and go read through those threads of Hobo's, he really knows his stuff, i've learned from him myself, that's the beautiful thing about these boards, we learn from each other.

personally, i chose DWC for 2 main reasons, first because this is only my second grow overall (my first was in dirt) so i'm no expert.
which leads me to my second reason, simplicity. DWC is the simplest form of hydroponics there is (with the possible exception of the wick method).

i've been using DWC for some months now and i can say that i love it.
unless i decide to put something outside, i'll never go back.

that being said, you should check out my cloner, it's basically a shallow DWC so it is simple as shit and it works like a dream, i'm getting near 100% success with it and it cost me less than $20.00 to make it. here's a link to it so you can take a look.
http://www.greenpassion.org/f15/chea...-results-5593/
i built it to have 18 stations but you could scale it up or down to fit your particular needs (you could even build one that is much more elaborate, with mister heads and plumbing or a fogger instead of an air-pump, which, to my way of thinking just adds more things that can go wrong)

anyway, keep up the good work, there is no bud as sweet as the one you grew yourself!

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