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Hatch · #41 (**permalink**) 06-29-2009, 11:26 PM

Thank You MzJill, And We Welcome You To GreenPassion As Well, Very Nice To Meet Ya, & Great Work, Hat's Off, & On One Bent Knee, With A Bow Of The Head, First Lady!!!, & What A Pleasure To Have You Both!!

Check Ya Later,Cheers`;`Hatch`;`

ileso · #42 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 10:50 AM

wow, ... speachless!

kareem ahvunyun · #43 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 11:20 AM

great thread subcool!
welcome mzjill .

jangel · #44 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 11:25 AM

Spectacular. Nothing else fits....and MizJill, may I welcome you also to the site. Love to talk and get to know you both.

Welcome to the GreenPassion Family!

Peace

raf33 · #45 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 11:37 AM

amazing..wow! what a colours

thank you for that subcool

Shinningwind · #46 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 11:43 AM

Totally Awesome.....

MzJill......

A big Thanks from us all here at Green Passion to the both of you for sharing your knowledge & adventures....

mightymite · #47 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 11:45 AM

I remember reading about this. I'm sorry for your loss bro. I think that was a great way to honor your friends memory

Richard Owl Mirror · #48 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 12:53 PM

Subcool, I've been reading your entries as has everyone else.
I wonder if you could explain and expand upon this quote.

Quote:

Kali Mist X Blue Widow ~ "the only problem is its the tallest plant I ever grew and just kills you canopy yield due to the bulb being raised so high."
2 Decade History of Growing Indoors

subcool · #49 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Owl Mirror

Subcool, I've been reading your entries as has everyone else.
I wonder if you could explain and expand upon this quote.

The plant was 4X taller than anything in the garden this caused me to raise my hoods over 7 feet.
The other plants being so far away from the hoods suffered in yields

The strain was simply to tall for our type set up even when topped aggressively

Sub

Richard Owl Mirror · #50 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subcool

The plant was 4X taller than anything in the garden this caused me to raise my hoods over 7 feet.
The other plants being so far away from the hoods suffered in yields

The strain was simply to tall for our type set up even when topped aggressively

Sub

Thank you, so would you recommend to other growers that if they encounter this problem, they should remove the too tall plant to prevent the reduction of yield in their other plants?
Or at the very least, bend the plant over so the canopy will remain an equal height?

subcool · #51 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Owl Mirror

Thank you, so would you recommend to other growers that if they encounter this problem, they should remove the too tall plant to prevent the reduction of yield in their other plants?
Or at the very least, bend the plant over so the canopy will remain an equal height?

Jill is big on the bending method so it deff works!
I obviously have strains that are taller than others but thers a point certain things just wont fit. I mis this bud though and I could have learned to work it in I just didnt at the time JCf1 is already very tall and my total end hieght is determined by that one strain, I just didnt need another super tall strain in the garden it make managing 10 strains in one area much more complex.
I cant speak to other growers many keep ECSD around dispite its she male status and 75 day maturity time but I did not.
An Equal canopy is extremly important to consisiatnt yields

Sub

Richard Owl Mirror · #52 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subcool

Jill is big on the bending method so it deff works!
I obviously have strains that are taller than others but thers a point certain things just wont fit. I mis this bud though and I could have learned to work it in I just didnt at the time JCf1 is already very tall and my total end hieght is determined by that one strain, I just didnt need another super tall strain in the garden it make managing 10 strains in one area much more complex.
I cant speak to other growers many keep ECSD around dispite its she male status and 75 day maturity time but I did not.
An Equal canopy is extremly important to consisiatnt yields

Sub

Yes, from my interaction with many small growers who have little experience in growing yet, are trying to supply themselves, they try to mix and match growing Sativa-dominant strains with Indica-dominant strains so they might create a perpetual harvest regime.
Naturally most Sativa-dominant strains grow taller than the Indica-dominant strains which would lead to this problem.
Would you recommend a table system which would allow the lifting/raising of the individual pots to allow the canopy to be managed evenly?
Perhaps the Sativa at ground level while the Indica sits atop a milk crate?

subcool · #53 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 02:10 PM

I find the elevation thing dosnt work so well. The stands and pots shade the lowers on the sats
I do it differently by cloning my shorter plants first allowing them to get a nice head start before taking cuts of my taller plants. I dont always hit the mark but for instance I have a 16" Urkle plant with 4 heads in veg and I am just now transplanting the JC f1 into a 6" pot. This staggering gets my canopy much more even.

They other trick is to top taller plants aggressively while not topping shorter Indicas

I will be going into detail about canopy managment on the Laws thread as I continue tips there.

Thanks for the interest

Sub

subcool · #54 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 03:12 PM

This next strain gets mixed reviews from me. It was created using A-13 and JCB. Sunycheba used our stock Apollo mom and a male from the last ½ of the JCB seeds. It is quite headie and done very very fast. It has a great clear buzz that cuts through everything but it was created in very limited amounts and based on what I have learned A-13 X JTR has much more of the Cindy traits I find appealing, however this is really great smoke!! Removing the blueberry from the cross in the form of JTR instead of JCB is a much better choice for potency and stability.

What this cross proved to me is the breeding potential of A-13 and the need to work her backwards into a cube. This strain was never released to the public but it is a strain I have grown none the less so it makes the list. This particular cut is exceptionally nice.

We are now re working this cross using JCf1 and Vortex as I thought thats the way it should have been created in the first place I was never a fan of JC bx

Choices remember?

subcool · #55 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 03:15 PM

This is anothet contribution from MzJill. What a sweet tasting sweet tooth she collected before we met we ran her and pollenated her with Space Dude. Jill will elaborate of the origins of her moms later but I am trying to keep the flow going as each strain came into my life.

She will show you some of her stunning pics later but for now here are some of her shots I have filed.

Space Tooth

** We did not repeat this cross hell you can buy sweet tooth from anywhere and we like to be unique**

Side Note:
I have now started 3 different types of Sweetooth including a cutting and none have been as good as Jills cut

subcool · #56 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 03:20 PM

This is Jills amazing tasty treat.
She has a huge collection of pictures and Info on here In depth thread.
The Candy tasting Pheno became one of our favorite smokes

OV X SQ

A MzJill Creation

Thanks MzJIll

The best tasting weed I currently grow!

From the current issue of Skunk Magazine
Name: Jillybean
Nationality: USA
Height: Moderate to tall
Weight: Chunky
Age: 8-9 Weeks
Race : 60/40 Sativa Indica

Leave it to a woman to create a strain that can actually stimulate activity in the bedroom. Not only does Jillybean have an incredible Dreamcicle taste but it really does seem to super charge ones libido! Shortly after the release of this strain in 2006 we started getting feedback from growers and smokers about this effect. Seems some of my customers were noticing a boost in the love life, many times instigated by the female of the relationship. Combining the Tart mango of Space Queen by BGCA with MzJill's Elite clone mother ,Orange Velvet, we came up with some of the tastiest weed we currently grow. Taking on the sweet traits as well as the resin of the best Vic had to offer this special female taste like candy with a hint of tang. Jillybean is not as potent as some of our crippling hybrids used for medical conditions but it may be a natural mode enhancer and with the added benefit of stimulation of both body mind and mouth it has become our overall best selling strain.

subcool · #57 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 03:35 PM

Ok a slight left turn now were going to feature strains I have been associated with and or smoked the strain. I will limit this to things I have high res pics of but just figure about 6 months in Amsterdam and 7 Cups so include almost all the Dutch Gear. This is a Photo history so we wont count those…

Lemon Freeze

Suny was one of the few people I knew out west and when I did my normal thing and collected to many plants I started passing them to him. He has replicated some of my creations and made some of his own. You should know Suny is a full time “ MR Mom” so picture that movie with plants everywhere and you’ll know why his goodies are limited. Were happy to have his unique crosses in any amounts.
This is the JC bx T pheno crossed with JCB and it created an amazing Sativa that many people just rave about in fact I thing LS has one he likes. It has a milder lemony taste that’s much diff than JC its Sat dom and takes longer to finish the buzz is speedy and up with an almost Haze like fry.

Suny and I parted ways after he lost the Black Russian mother and the male it got heavy in the end but lets leave it polite

subcool · #58 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 03:39 PM

Here is a wild cross combining DJ’s Flo x JCB. Now I have made some comments that might lead people to think I to assuming I don’t like him. This is not true he has taught me a ton by reading his numerous papers and I have tasted a lot of really kick ass Blueberry crosses. I think it adds a dirt taste more than a berry taste and its more a personal thing BB is also known to create hybrid herms as it may carry a recessive herm trait. The guy is a legend and deserves a lot of respect for longevity alone.

First Flo Preggo

I always liked the idea of Flo providing a nice clean buzz suited for PC geeks and gamers ( holds hand up) I was not a huge fan of this cross but it was a huge success on cbay and it has been distributed widly with very few complaints. I actually get request and there are people actually f2ing it
Sometimes you make a good drink by mistake

The smoke is smooth and berryish with undertones of Lime, lemon and keylime? The buzz is all cerebral and I didn’t even know I was high till I stood up. Its deff a strain for a clean bong with a toob full of ice cubes.

Suny has a knack for finding color and the unusual he if not a Subcool robot and does what he feels is best but he has been an incredible student taking it on his own to learn as much as possible about genetics and helping with the medical aspect of things.

Check out his Blue Balled Male…

These pics are from a good friend again I let people claim growing my gear them selves its not disrespect but the other way around maybe they don’t want everyone to know not my call kinda like giving out someone’s phone #

subcool · #59 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 03:41 PM

One strain I passed to Suny is Squids Super Skunk, I have been running this plant for many years and I know a few people that swear by her for yields blasting 4 elbos outa 2k.

While he was making more Sputnik 1.0 using the BR male he also dusted the ssk mom with the purple males pollen. The greatest thing about this cross is its is really close to the mother strain in smoke with about 50% of them turning color naturally and all of them turning wild shades with any temperature drop
Staying short her one flaw is the utter stank she develops totally living up to her name. It almost smells rotten at times yet a sweet dank odor is everywhere unlike some lemon or orange smelling plants this one makes your grow house smell like pot!

Short Thick buds
Heavy Indica Jill says its Original dank just the combined sweet skunk smell.
Squids SSK from sensi circa 1983 X Nebu’s Black Russian..

Pictures are all by Friends of TGA thanks for the amazing samples

I am blown away by seeing our gear grown by others.
I get high with a little help from my friends

subcool · #60 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 03:48 PM

Jacks Surprize
JC X GF X C99

Thanks 180
You guys won’t know this cat but he was one of the first people I sent a JC cut to when I first found her. The funny thing is he sent me a camera case full of seeds and I tried to germ them twice with no success, I passed them on to Tommy^2 who had great success with them and then passed em on to others eventually landing with Kryptonite and he was nice enough to pass on a cut to Sportster for me. Wow what a long strange trip that was.

Lets watch her grow!!