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Old 03-24-2009, 10:34 AM
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The Liquid Lumens HydroFlector "the next level indoor lighting product". After several years of design and development Liquid Lumens has the perfect solution to a historically plaguing problem for indoor gardens. Designed to remove unwanted bulb-heat and IR, the unique liquid-cooled design is not only incredibly effective, but also completely safe!

The Liquid Lumens company is proud to have designed, developed, and manufactured all custom parts here in the U.S.A. The HydroFlector consists of 10 professionally engineered custom parts working together to forever change the way you cool your garden. With minimal effort, the HydroFlector can be installed in many HID reflectors designed for 8" air cooling and most "wing" reflectors are easily retro-fit. In addition, the HydroFlector vessel is offered fully assembled and ready to "plug n play".

What is most unique about the Liquid Lumens HydroFlector is its flexibility. It can be water-cooled or water & air-cooled. There is quite literally nothing else like the HydroFlector in the world. Decrease the distance between your lights and your plant canopy. Install more lights per square foot than you ever have with the HydroFlector. Both result in more lumens available to your plants, which in turn result in greater yields!

Many of you have read about the Inverse Square Law. Doubling the distance to a light source the observed intensity is decreased to (1/2)2 = 1/4 (of its original value). For every inch that the bulb is removed from your plants, the lumen availability decreases dramatically. Under the right conditions, using the HydroFlector, you can move your lights so much closer to your plants that you can switch to 600W lights and achieve similar results as you previously have obtained with 1000W lights.

In addition to the unmatched cooling abilities, another major benefit is the decrease you'll see in your electric bill due to factors such as chiller downtime and a significant decrease in your air conditioning demand. The chiller draws about the same amount of power as a comparable fan. The fan runs continuously while the chiller's compressor only comes on periodically (cycles).

Every minute the chiller's compressor doesn't run is a minute you would have been paying for the fan to run. Once again, the chiller makes only a very small fraction of the noise as a fan. After a few hours running, the glass on the bottom of a typical 1000W air-cooled set up is usually between 140 to 155 degrees F. With the Hydroflector Hybrid, after 8 hours of running continuously with water chilled to 65 degrees F, the surface of the glass won't exceed 85 degrees. Imagine the savings with your air conditioner not having to work so hard to cool your garden. The better the temperature inside your garden is controlled, the better the crop yield in both quality and quantity.

With the Liquid Lumens HydroFlector you have the ability to keep your garden cool without massive air exchange. Since you will not have constant exchange for cooling, you will have the perfect environment for CO2 supplementation. Prior to water-cooling methods, the main problem with CO2 supplementation was the tedious task of balancing your fan cycles with CO2 cycles. Since your garden will not require this continuous air exchange, you will be able to maintain an optimal CO2 environment with minimal environmental controllers to control the fan cycles and temperature protection.

There are many methods to cooling the water that circulates through the Liquid Lumens HydroFlector. Although a chiller is the most common method to date, using a "heat exchanger" (like copper tubing) buried in the earth or submerged in a pond or pool is becoming more common. Although there is more effort to install this type of system, by eliminating the need to mechanically chill the water, you make the system that much more energy efficient.

The air-cooling was included for use under extreme conditions only (small enclosures, grow chambers, closets, etc.) and should rarely be necessary. Air-cooling can be accomplished by ducting air through the center tube that houses our patented, polished aluminum, one-of-a-kind socket bracket assembly. The socket assembly is designed so all the wiring connections are inside the housing protecting this connection from UV damage. The bracket also is fully adjustable so that you can center any bulb size within the unit.

The center tube is positioned inside of a larger tube with water running between the tubes. Both tubes are made from heat-resistant, boro-silicate glass. The ends of the tubes are held together with dual stage rubber and neoprene gaskets and ABS plastic end caps. The unique custom made gaskets are wedge shaped and wrap around the edge of the glass giving it a three-sided seal that locks the gasket into the end cap. The pressure that is needed to pull the end cap in place is supplied by the flange collar that clamps onto the outer tube with epoxy adhesive. The end cap is held to the flange collar by six stainless steel bolts, washers, and nuts. The flange collar is designed for the nuts to recess into it, so there is no need to use a wrench for these, thereby easing assembly. The plastic parts are made with rugged ABS plastic with the highest recommended amount of UV inhibitor, ensuring years of problem free operation. There are also duct covers to use when air-cooling is not needed (this is usually the case). The water nozzles are brass and can easily be swapped out if a different tubing size is used.

Liquid Lumens also now offers a "No Flow - No Go" safety mechanism that will cut power to your lighting system in the event of a pump failure. We recommend using this mechanism in all installations.


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Note: i am not affiliated w/this company at all.. this is just dam cool



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Another way to drain your wallet.
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this is an interesting idea. i like the idea it is taking but it also brings forth some new problems like what happens if a water line breaks, how many watts does the chiller take, does the water chiller work well, etc. from the website they also suggest a 10 gallon tub with chiller for recirculating water (unless you have it attached to faucet or pond outside....which i doubt many are. all in all cool idea but i think this product can aim at the larger companies with big heat bills and a room capacity and budget to need to cool the lights with a reservoir chiller rather than fan exhaust.

the products start around $470 and go up from there. not really good bang for your buck when you can buy a digital ballast, bulb, relfector, and inline exhaust fan with ducting for a little over half the price.
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You can also bury tubing underground to cool the water too..

I believe that if you lose water pressure/flow that the lil safety valve cuts the power to the light(s)

I totally agree with you as far as the pricing goes but since it's "new technology", i can see the prices being higher.

neat idea though and i suppose the retail cost would be worth it (vs. an attorney if you get busted) if you were in a high risk situation or in an area where heat control is a problematic issue
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I'm typing on a liquid cooled Sony computer, right now. I view this as a emerging technology that can bring some very cool innovations. It will be years before it's price competitive.
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hah .. could you imagine a 1K light in a closet with one of these?
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ok so i found a system thats cheaper but not as well designed it doesnt have a way to add in air cooling on top of the water cooling but its still the same idea and $100 cheaper the link is below all you need is a 50 gal res and a water chiller unit and it should cut down the temp of the light crazy good. (you would still need the water chiller for the other one)


http://www.greners.com/hoods-reflect...-complete.html

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You would think it would be cheaper. Guess not. Im interested but the price is a lil steep.
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look at it this way you take the 150 degree heat of the light and cut it to 85 degrees means you can dam near let the plants grow to touching it the possibilities of being able to toss a 1000w HID light into a closet i think would make the difference cause it would pay for it self in the first grow with it because of the amount of extra bud you could sell back to a dispensery etc.

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