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When I started this, not too long ago, I just germed 4 seeds I had from bagseed laying around with no real "plan" on what to do if these 4 actually lived lol Then I germed a few more and can still tell the diff between the 2 bagseed strains. But now I have germed 5 more ready for soil and 5 out of the same bag that I want to see if I picked out all the female seeds. So I have a bunch of blue 16oz beer cups. I have a black sharpy and a post it note pen that has lil flags you can write on. But I seem to have come to a point in my grow where I should start some kind of system of identifying them and keeping track of what plants have gotten what nutes, age, when it was put under 12/12 ect. Arg! My skills are so not organization of data. Anyone have an excel spreadsheet they use? Or how do you mark your pots? I need something simple here. And now I have a clone to keep track of. Their are no names for these strains except for my grizzly has been identified I think. Hmmm maybe a star trek theme for the cups...should probably name them right after I get them out of the bags. Hmmm....
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I use a calander! I get the kind that has a seperate area where I can write things down that wont fit in the little squares. I put down when to change water ,when to mist with Einstein, the last time I fertilized, how old each plant is and anything else thats important. Works great!
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I use a calander! I get the kind that has a seperate area where I can write things down that wont fit in the little squares. I put down when to change water ,when to mist with Einstein, the last time I fertilized, how old each plant is and anything else thats important. Works great!
Thanks for that tip! I was thinking of the abbreviations peeps might use on their pots, like maybe A=age since it sprouted, S=sex (when known) ect. My situation is such that I have 9plants total in 12/12 all at diff stages and I wasn't really taking notes. So some are ready for nutes, some not and never really wrote down daily what I did or didn't do. I have a clone for 5 days now that looks good but that feeding will be diff than the rest. I have 5 seedlings started and marked the cups with marker. And I have 2 diff jugs of water with diff ingredients for diff plants. Looking back now, I should have been taking better notes. All this growing is a lot of work!!
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Hi there sabasi gr8t post. I thought about this too since I started similar to you with just 5 plants. They all went into flower at the same time so it worked out fine. Now I have a new grow with seedlings and I also clone 4/5 plants form the previous grow.

I think the easiest way to keep track is right here in a detailed grow journal. I have been able to go back and check dates this way and see individual plant progress as well. I also keep lots of extra photo's on my computer with details in the folders.

I like your idea of an Excel spreadsheet too! It will be interesting to hear others.
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LOL Come to think of it now, I have more info on my grow here than in my journal! It may be strewn all over the board here, but I can find it when I need lol I found a neat little program called "the journal" and it has everything I wanted it for. Not just for grows, but grocery lists, todo lists and everything. Iv'e used it for years now myself, and it was free!
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I have come to the conclusion that GP is the best grow journal I can have. I did play around with an Excel spreadsheet, but I couldn't figure it out. Anyone here an excel whiz?
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no, but I do have a user certification in MS Word and I missed the one for MS Access by two points... ...just sayin'
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High sabasi, everyone...

I use Excel for my GJs..
It's good to be able go back and see what you've done, right and wrong, previously..

if I knew how to post/PM it I'd be happy to provide, at least, what I've been using/developing...

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I use Excel for my GJs..
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if I knew how to post/PM it I'd be happy to provide, at least, what I've been using/developing...

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Ya, it wouldn't let me post mine either. Email it to me?? I would love to see yours! Then I can show you mine! That sounds naughty!!
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When I started this, not too long ago, I just germed 4 seeds I had from bagseed laying around with no real "plan" on what to do if these 4 actually lived lol Then I germed a few more and can still tell the diff between the 2 bagseed strains. But now I have germed 5 more ready for soil and 5 out of the same bag that I want to see if I picked out all the female seeds. So I have a bunch of blue 16oz beer cups. I have a black sharpy and a post it note pen that has lil flags you can write on. But I seem to have come to a point in my grow where I should start some kind of system of identifying them and keeping track of what plants have gotten what nutes, age, when it was put under 12/12 ect. Arg! My skills are so not organization of data. Anyone have an excel spreadsheet they use? Or how do you mark your pots? I need something simple here. And now I have a clone to keep track of. Their are no names for these strains except for my grizzly has been identified I think. Hmmm maybe a star trek theme for the cups...should probably name them right after I get them out of the bags. Hmmm....
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ok so for not using the adv posting option down at the bottom other than just using quick replies PHAIL i have one i tossed together in all of about 10 min its set for 3 weeks right now using the sheets on it all you have to do is add more sheets.

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i phail too but i still have the attachment there now (forum wont take the 2k7 office version of excell)

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I will think about making a database so all you had to do was enter the numbers and it would compare each grow journal to the next (numbers wise) and possible a plant by plant (for experimentation purposes) comparison. who knows i am learning that Im very imaginative and motivated while blazed especially when it comes to stuff to help the grow. TTFN
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I do hydro. I guess I am just lazy. I keep a index card for each rez showing each time I dump it and what ppm,ph it should be. As far as when to flower I keep around 6 to 10 big enough to go so I pick out two a week and start them flowering. Flower is a legal pad That is updated once a week "friday" That has the date then each plant and how many weeks it been in flowering. I keep with the grow that way while out there working with them all I have to do is pick it up and look. Thats what works for me. I am heavy into looking at them and feeling them to see how they are doing.They tell you what going on with them.
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High UZ.. everyone.. I'll give this uplaod the xls (excel) documant..

I'm not very good at this upload/download, so it appears that my attachment starts in the middle of the doc.. Scroll to the top.
and I am finding out that it will not let me upload 2 xls docs (I think) to the same post. (??) I have a template. if anyone wants it..

The attachment is GL 2nd grow (#2) of AK47 .
If you look at the tabs on the bottom of the page, there is an add back calculator.. I think.. and a julian date calandar.. IDates are easire for me to add and subtract for timeing values...

There are imbedded formulas that will (you'll see in the template) up date dates, etc...

I've used them for 2+ years and if I weren't high when I made 99.9999% of the entries, they would make more sence to me.. so do not try to figure out to the 'inth, dates, times and such.. GIGO!
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High UZ.. everyone.. I'll give this uplaod the xls (excel) documant..

I'm not very good at this upload/download, so it appears that my attachment starts in the middle of the doc.. Scroll to the top.
and I am finding out that it will not let me upload 2 xls docs (I think) to the same post. (??) I have a template. if anyone wants it..

The attachment is GL 2nd grow (#2) of AK47 .
If you look at the tabs on the bottom of the page, there is an add back calculator.. I think.. and a julian date calandar.. IDates are easire for me to add and subtract for timeing values...

There are imbedded formulas that will (you'll see in the template) up date dates, etc...

I've used them for 2+ years and if I weren't high when I made 99.9999% of the entries, they would make more sence to me.. so do not try to figure out to the 'inth, dates, times and such.. GIGO!
Wow! Do we get to see the color code for all these? Iv'e never seen sooo many colors in a spreadsheet before! Thanks for sharing this! It was just what I was looking for as I hate formulas!! I will have to learn more about this julian date calandar! I imagine if you start using this in mid grow it would be very hard to make sense of lol I think I have ADD!!
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One thing Sabasi.....not good to make up nutes in advance and keep them around. It plays with the chemistry and you will have things exploding in time due to fermentation.

I keep it as simple as possible. Of course I grow in dirt so all my vegging plants get one mix, all my flowering plants another. Most of my nutes are in my soil and all I usually add is SM-90 for plant and root health, molasses for flower, some humic acid when I feel they need it, and some mg/cal because I use RO water. The rest, the plants tell me when they need something.

I do mine in stages. Now I have two lots of clones, 2 weeks difference in planted up ages. My plants in flower are all 2 week difference in flowering, and the size tells me which they are. Right now I have 22 plants in flower, at different ages. so it works for me.

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I keep it as simple as possible. Of course I grow in dirt so all my vegging plants get one mix, all my flowering plants another. Most of my nutes are in my soil and all I usually add is SM-90 for plant and root health, molasses for flower, some humic acid when I feel they need it, and some mg/cal because I use RO water. The rest, the plants tell me when they need something.

I do mine in stages. Now I have two lots of clones, 2 weeks difference in planted up ages. My plants in flower are all 2 week difference in flowering, and the size tells me which they are. Right now I have 22 plants in flower, at different ages. so it works for me.

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Wow! Do we get to see the color code for all these? Iv'e never seen sooo many colors in a spreadsheet before! Thanks for sharing this! It was just what I was looking for as I hate formulas!! I will have to learn more about this julian date calandar! I imagine if you start using this in mid grow it would be very hard to make sense of lol I think I have ADD!!
High sabasi.. by all means.. start now.. mid growth... approximate the start dates and all... start nex one with experience..

pm me about the colors.. any color, or no color.. if you want...
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My story is like yours Sebasi....just started out experimenting with seeds and thought I would deal with it if anything ever evenuated. I did alot of research first though. My eyes were opened - what an interesting plant to watch growing and developing all in the essence of providing some pain relief or other medicinal use to patients globally.

I also have 3 stages of growth: 1 /12 months, 4 weeks, 2 weeks. I have now run into some trouble. The plants are all lucious and healthy but it looks like (observed in the last 2 days) that 2 of the 3 1 1/2 month olds are starting to show signs of flowering and so are 4 of the 4 week old ones which are only about 4 inches high max.

I started out using a 600wt and only have the one light, one area. I was using 24/7 and then purchased a timer to save power and changed the light setting to 18/6. Only since then have the plants showed signs of flowering after 1 week on this cycle.

My question is as many of you have different stages of plants, clones, seedlings etc. Do you run these under the 1 light or do you have 2 different areas? How can you germ, veg and bloom 3 stages of plants in the one area under the one light? or... is it possible? What will happen to the ones that look like they are starting to flower? Should I pull out the tops where the hairs are starting to show to revert them maybe?
In a dilema.... this is my first attempt is is strictly underway for medicinal use. HELP!!!!
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My story is like yours Sebasi....just started out experimenting with seeds and thought I would deal with it if anything ever evenuated. I did alot of research first though. My eyes were opened - what an interesting plant to watch growing and developing all in the essence of providing some pain relief or other medicinal use to patients globally.

I also have 3 stages of growth: 1 /12 months, 4 weeks, 2 weeks. I have now run into some trouble. The plants are all lucious and healthy but it looks like (observed in the last 2 days) that 2 of the 3 1 1/2 month olds are starting to show signs of flowering and so are 4 of the 4 week old ones which are only about 4 inches high max.

I started out using a 600wt and only have the one light, one area. I was using 24/7 and then purchased a timer to save power and changed the light setting to 18/6. Only since then have the plants showed signs of flowering after 1 week on this cycle.

My question is as many of you have different stages of plants, clones, seedlings etc. Do you run these under the 1 light or do you have 2 different areas? How can you germ, veg and bloom 3 stages of plants in the one area under the one light? or... is it possible? What will happen to the ones that look like they are starting to flower? Should I pull out the tops where the hairs are starting to show to revert them maybe?
In a dilema.... this is my first attempt is is strictly underway for medicinal use. HELP!!!!
Cheers Jude
Unless you have an autoflowering variety, there should not be any true flowering going on at this point, given my limited knowledge. Do understand, that even a photoperiod dependent strain will produce pistils when a level of sexual maturity is reached. Also during this time the nodes should start or be offset rather than symmetrically forming. If this is the initial appearance of these hairs, the three and a half month ones are on schedule, to my understanding. As for the 4 weekers, are they stock that has been cloned or from seed? The clones would have the same level of maturity as the mother from which they were cut. In any case, this is from my reading, and a little of my experience as witness to such things. I hope that someone will correct any misgivings herein, but that this also may bring a little comfort to you in the interim. Hoping all is well!
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