Water Curing

green_nobody

chill hempie, its a common process in industry, very common with premium unblended tobacco, as you get with premium cigarettes if they are true premium ones. they do so to avoid the chemical blending which is need otherwise with cigarettes to get the smoke smooth enough, a marlboro for example contains more then 600 added chemicals, which most oft them aren't used anymore in other sectors because the either addicting or highly toxic, actually most are both
with cigars mainly air-cured, or to be technically air fermented tobacco is used, that take way longer and you need other strains that are not so productive and more tricky to grow, so too expensive for cheap cigarettes.

well you see where i'm heading hempie, it is as risky as to air-cure you buds and try it and you will love it too

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AzGrOw-N-sMoKe

well all i can is that i really dont like the way it tastes...i will use it for hash like the trim..

greenpassion

Herei s the previosu link to water curing:
http://www.greenpassion.org/showthre...ght=water+cure

However after my friend Caustic posted in this thread, there really is no need to go anywhere else. He rocks!

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[quote=videoman;376]
Plop in your freshy cut buds (or schwag, whatever, but fresh buds work best) into enough water to completely submerge the buds. The buds will float to the top for the first few days of this, so you need something to hold them down (a block of wood, a plate, etc). Change the water every day for 7 days, any less than seven could result in undesirable results (trust me). Try not to disturb the buds when changing the water as plant material can break off more easily (read: trichomes). Always keep the lid of the cooler open, do not seal off the container.[quote]


My 2 cents to keeping the buds down the first days:

-i gotten me an old cullender, toke the handle off, so this gives me about 2/3 gallon in volume to work with. since it is made from aluminium it is a bit lightweight so i place a steel barbell on top to keep it down.
(two nice options to the one i got:
http://www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/products/76113785
http://www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/products/90011829
they are also handy for the water change)

-second method is as bid odd and against what video was teaching above, you take a good rubbermaid box, put your buds in, and fill it with fresh water to the rim and press the lid on, some water will squirt out for sure so do it over the sink! secure the lid with a few elastics and turn it around. i place then the box in a plastic bag as backup safety and then in a dark corner of the basement and let the fermentation do the work for me.

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scott06

I put a few budz in water from my humble harvest....I'll let people know how it goes...I have a feeling this is gonna be great....almost all the things you don't want in a bud are water soluable and the cannabinoids are not water soluable so it makes perfect sense...if it comes out as well as I think it will I may plunge a main cola in water

day two - water is clear - perhaps my mostly organic low concentration methods help keep the chemical waste down....hope that chlorophyl starts leaching

SoulRider

Hey guys,

I'm new to the forums, but found this page because I was looking for some information on water curing that I had used to start a while back.

I've been unable to find the information but having seen some of your members concerns about water curing , I would like to share my recollection of the thread I learned from, and my own experiences.

I am not a heavy grower, I have only had a couple of crops, but I am always interested in techniques which get me my smoke quicker....

The report was done over 7 days. The guy used a PPM counter in his water measurements every day before emptying the water, and after filling up, so he knew how much rubbish and detritus was being removed.

He had PPM differences of 300-500 over the first 3 days, from then on only about 100-150 a day on the last 4 days. This method washes away all the flavour and taste, which makes for a smooth smoke, and a smoke that isn't recognisable instantly as Marijuana, so is good for people who go fishing, etc.

One bright spark on the forum hypothesised that the rubbish was being removed over the first 3 days, and the next few days, as they were constant, were probably the flavour molecules etc being washed away.

He then did a 3 day cure himself and posted his results. Obviously he did not record the PPM's, as this was already known, he was after the result.

And what a result it was, all the taste and flavour of air dried bud, with the potency of water cured, and in only 3 days. Good things sometimes come to those who are impatient

It was only my 2nd grow when I discovered this, so I put it to the test with a 3 day and a 7 day cure.

All I can say is I'll never air cure again. If I need some gear to smoke in public, I'll knock up some 7 day cure, but I will always 3 day cure for standard smoking. It is the best of both worlds.

A good humidifier would be great, but I don't have one/can't afford one, so I stagger my curing by a day each time, so I can dry my cure with a hairdryer.

I would whole heartedly recommend people try this. On my last trip to Amsterdam, I got one of the girls in Sensei Seeds to try it. I will be getting her results when I go back next month.

Try it, even with a small piece. Also with the 3 day method you get slightly more weight left too, but only a couple of percent.

I'm posting this twice as I'm not sure how often the sticky gets read.

Any questions, I'll try and answer.

videoman

Nice post, I think a 3 day cure would have different results for different strains though, be careful. 7 seems to be the norm.
In any event, good luck.
Peace

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SoulRider

7 does seem to be the 'norm'

but raw meat was the 'norm' before fire

Obviously I'm not saying the 3 day cure is that big of a leap ;P

All I want is for everyone growing a crop to try the 3 day cure on a small bit of crop, and do another small piece with the 7 day cure. Try them both and then report here in the thread. We'll only find out how it works on many different strains, if many different strains are tried

Please try it with a small part of your next crop. I'm sure you were intrigued by the 7 day cure, are you not as intrigued by the 3 day cure? I mean, saving a whole 4 days off the curing time off your crop, and potentially leaving more of the buds flavour in there? Surely that's got to be worth at least trying?



Subtle ;)

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scott06

I am very happy with the 7 day water cure...once as an experiment and once to deal with some poorly cured/flushed bud

I think I could easily try this method by having about just a small amount of budz in a small container, and then take out a roughly equal number on day 3 through 8 respectively and sampling each in a blind test....pehaps the water cure day number will come to vary with the taste of the individual

SoulRider

That is a very valid point scott, and I'd love to hear the results, as I'm sure would the others.

Any chance you can have a picture update when dried for each type too, so we could see the difference in color? Or at least a report on it?

I've never directly compared the colour, but to my mind it was less washed out after 3 days than 7, can you perhaps confirm this.

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