Hey all, I have seen in alot of post about adding carbo,sweet,to your hydro in flowering stage.Well here's a little infor I found that may help you with sugar. If I can paste this here that is. PEACE

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I helped ya out dude, and copied it in here for you!
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Why Use Sugary Supplements?

Matt LeBannister

People feed their plants sugars all the time without knowing it and not always understanding why. You give your sweetheart a bouquet of roses for Valentine’s Day and before they are put into the vase, sugar is added to the water to extend their bloom. Some “old school” gardeners will add molasses to their nutrient solution during the flowering period. Actually, just by adding fulvic acid, usually labeled “gold,” and humic acid, usually labeled “black,” to your nutrient mix you are giving your plants the building blocks for sugars.

Most growers do not even know that there is a meter, called a Brix meter, that is used to measure the level of sugars in the leaves of plants. It is generally understood that the higher the level of sugars within a plant’s tissue, the healthier the plant is and the better the yield will be.

Knowing this, the question should not be, “Why add a carbohydrate supplement to my nutrient solution?” but simply, “Why haven’t I added one already?”

To understand why you should give your plants one of the sugary supplements on the market, you should become a little more familiar with the way plants produce and use sugars.

Almost all plants use sugars as their main source of fuel. They transport these sugars along with water and other elements throughout their systems, either for food or to create amino acids for biosynthesis to fuel cellular respiration. Maple trees are a great example of how plants use sugars. Their sugary sap is famous at breakfast tables worldwide, but that sap is really the food the maple tree has begun to store to survive the winter to come.

Most plants are photoautotrophs, which means that they synthesize their own food directly from inorganic compounds using photons, the energy from light. They do this using a process called photosynthesis. Photosynthesis comes from the Greek word “photo,” meaning light, and “synthesis,” meaning to put together. The inorganic compounds are carbon dioxide (CO2) and water (H2O), and the energy source is sunlight. The end products include glucose, a simple sugar, and oxygen (O2). The actual equation looks like this:

6CO2+ 12H2O+ photons—> C6H2O6+ 6O2+ 6H2O(gas) (liquid) (aqueous) (gas) (liquid)

Then, through a process called carbon fixation, ATP (adenosine triphosphate),AND? a high-energy molecule CO2 (carbon dioxide) are used to create sugars. Some sugars produced, such as glucose, are simple sugars or monosaccharides. They are easily broken down by the plant and are generally used for energy. Other sugars produced, such as cellulose, are complex sugars or polysaccharides. Polysaccharides consist of a chain of two or more sugars and are usually used for lipid and amino acid biosynthesis. Polysaccharides are also used as a fuel in cellular respiration. Cellulose specifically is used as the building material for all green plants. It is the main component of all green plant cell walls.

Through the examination of the process of photosynthesis, we learn just how important the sugars produced through this process are. The sugars and starches are vital to the plant. They are essential for cellular preparation, to maintain the plants metabolism and vigor. The sugars are even the building blocks that keep the very cells of the plant together. Now it is understood that plants have a great big “sweet tooth” and are specialists at making the sugars they need.

So why then should we be feeding them more on top of all this? Simply put, flowering plants are burning these carbs trying to make large fruit or vegetables, or big beautiful blooms, faster than a marathon runner trying to win a race. Not to mention that the process of photosynthesis, which produces the sugars, itself takes a lot of energy. By adding one of the organic carbohydrate supplements to your nutrient solution the carbohydrates that have been allocated to the flowering process will be replenished more easily. This will save your plant the energy it would need to create those sugars itself, and your plant can focus more of its energy on the flowering process.

Also, many beneficial bacteria and fungi (aka carbon-fixing bacterial fungi) will live on the sugars and will break down the sugars for the plant. This, again, allows the plant to use energy usually spent breaking down sugars for other processes. The more beneficial bacteria and fungi, the easier nutrients are absorbed by the roots. All this leads to improved flowering and overall health of the plants.

When choosing the supplement for your plants remember the old saying, “You are what you eat.” The same goes for your plants. Look for something organic because organic sugars will improve flavor and smell better than anything that inorganic.

There are also some sugars that are more important to your plants than others. Xylose and arabinose are two of those sugars. Both are sugars naturally produced by plants. They are also monosaccharides, which means they are simple sugars and, therefore, used more easily by the plant.

Glucose should be the main ingredient of the product because it is the main product of photosynthesis. Glucose is a monosaccharide that is used for energy and for starting cellular respiration in the plant. The name “glucose” comes from the Greek word “glykys,” which means sweet, with the suffix “ose,” which denotes that it is a carbohydrate. Glucose is critical in the production of proteins and in lipid metabolism. Glucose is also used as a precursor for the synthesis of several important substances, such as starch and cellulose. Starch is a way in which plants store energy and cellulose makes up most of the structural parts of plants.

Fructose is also a monosaccharide and is a main component of most tree fruit, berries, and melons. It is the sweetest naturally occurring sugar and is twice as sweet as the disaccharide sucrose, which consists of glucose and fructose bonded together.

The disaccharide maltose is also an important sugar because enzymes break it down into two glucose molecules.

All of the above sugars are produced naturally by plants. By adding a supplement containing these simple and complex sugars to a well-balanced nutrient, a plant will increase the levels of sugars in the leaves and throughout the plant. This will let the plant use its energy more efficiently, allowing more energy to be focused on producing large fruit and bigger blooms. These sugars will also improve the taste of the end product while giving fuel to beneficial bacteria and fungi.

Using sugar supplements with carbon-based fulvic acid and humic acid bring great benefits to your plants with no downside. Knowing this and how the plants produce and use these sugars makes using them simply “carbo-logic.”

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niiiiice thanks, great info!

Great read,
molasses from the start, cant go wrong there.

well no - there are plenty of grows that claimed a lost grow to molasses in their DWC or E&F units that plugged everything up....

you have to use a monosaccharide such as fructose or similar.

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so if i have a soil grow, using FoxFarm or other nutes, should i add 1 or 2 tbsp of molasses to the solution every watering? hrmmmm this sounds like a good experiment to try....

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I use 1 tablespoon of molasses per gallon during flowering, except for the last week or so.

In soil me too Pappy.Molasses in hydro it's a no-no.Sugars for hydro is called by a few names.Brand names AN-carbo load, Botanicare-sweet,GH new one floraNectar.Like Pappy said 1 tablespoon of molasses in 1 gal warm water to mix it.Also be sure it {unsulphured}molasses or black strap.The other are cooked and additives put in it.Unsulphured means there's no additives and it's pure molasses.That's what you want.I use it like this in one soil I'am growing,water with nutr, water with molasses&water, water with molasses&water,water with molasses&water,water with nutr. Peace

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Oh yeah, about mixing molasses in warm water before adding it to your solution. I just mix 1 tablespoon into a cup of my watering solution, then pour it back into the mix and shake it up. I was doing this for a long time before I heard about mixing it with heated water. It works for me.
Then check pH again.

i started giving my girl a mix of molasses and floranectar 3 days ago and the buds have started growing much faster

Hey Kennkenniff What do you think of the floranectar? Have you use the Gh products before.I do and just seen the floranectar and you say you use it.So what do you think about it.Have you use other carbo products? PEACE

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Hey Guys&Gals,When I posted how I mix molasses in warm water and then add to the nutr mix this how I do it.I only use molasses in soiul grows,it plays havoc with Hydro. Here are the pixs ,I take 1 gal water,pour out 2 cups in a container.Mix your nutr in the rest of the water.Now heat the 2 cups of water,not boiling just good and warm,and mix 1 tbs molasses in the water.It will mix better and dissolve all the sugars and stuff in the molasses.Let it cool alittle and pour it in the nutr you mixed and let it cool.I do it this way cause I use a 3-part nutrs and you have to mix the mirco in the water first,or you lock out anything.After the nutr are mixed in the water less the 2 cups and the 2 cups water is mix with molasses pour it back in the gal jug.Give it a shake and you are ready to feed.Besure you check the PH before watering.Well that's about all I do.PEACE

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im using floranectar and im very pleased ive used sweet from botanicare but i,m likeing the results a lot more with flora . i like to try as much different nutes as possible without pissing off my ladies but i tottaly reccomend the nectar i,v noticed a huge difference with my strain i,m at week 7 and wow the just keep getting more crystals and bigger i get my better half to water for me during the week so i only see them on weekends so i,m really noticing the groth i,ll post pics tonight when i get off work

oh and my local grow store gave it to me free cause it was a sample bottle that had a lump on the botem of the bottle and would not stand up stright it always awsome when you get stuff for freebucks and it works awsome

Hey KK That's a good deal free.Well next trip to the hydro shop I'll pick some up.I trust GH products.Thanks for the feed back. PEACE

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at the shop i use they always have sample size products behind the counter i asked them one time about trying some product or something and they brung this big box of any and every kind of nute i could think of and some i haven't i asked them about haveing them and they said as far as they knew every shop has them cuase it the gh or who ever nute company has to let people try there stuff and hopefully switch to there's. needless to say i spent more time going though the box full of freebies then i did picking up everything i went there for also whatch for the clerance island or table depending on the size of the store i picked up a bucket something or rather it is the stuff that adds cheltin eating stuff to the soil but this was a 3 gallon bucket which not sure of the origanal price but picked it up for 5 bucks cuase the store hardly ever sold any so wasn't going to carry it anymore. if i rember right it was either oyster or crab shells crushed but was some kind of sea thing cuase the next year when i went in i was hopeing they still had the anouther one since they had 2 or 3 on the shelf after i bought mine and when i asked the girl pointed me to fox farms marine cuisine and said it was the same thing but had other stuff added to it which made it a better product.

we use Sweet, and Black Strap Mollasses because it has the natural sulfur in it still, everything else has the sulfur removed and when they do that, it draws out other trace elements so make sure you get it from a natural food store or order it dont just get the stuff at safeway, it even says without sulfur on it.

HelloMr.Donth8, I dont agree with that.
You dont have to get molasses at a natural food store.Blackstrap molasses and unsulphured are soled at any grocery.There other molasses that dont have all of what you want in them.The two kinds that you want are Blackstrap or unsulphured,the rest are pasteurize and like you said they dont have what the plant needs, it is taken out by pasteurizing.I paid $1.68 for a 12oz. jar,I dont know what it costs at health food stores.But it's not any better than what you get at the grocery store.I do like the sweet by botanicare,they now have it IN Flavors,citrus or berry,I dont know if they help the flavor or not but sweet dose a good job in the carbohydrate and mineral supplement department.PEACE

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Looks Like you agree to me? except about where to go...And where I live, you don't find unsulfered in your local Winnco but like I said before, Sulfured is the way to go. is it that serious? 4 real? And I have used the Sweets, regular, berry and citrus, after I found no variation in flavor i began to just use sweet a little and stick to the sugars.

No man I'am not getting serious,we are debating sugars.I was wanting to know about the berry&citrus and you dont get any change in tast.That's was what I wanted to know.Havent use sweet,but have carbo load and molasses,they work good. PEACE

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You know, natural sugars are cheaper than sweet, they just are risky in hydro. but in soil theyre great, I use all of them. Carbo load I never used properly but i have friends that also say it works well. also I know some old growers that are in a growers club, around here its like a grower comm garden and they dont flush and they use miracle grow because its sugar based. I never taste nutes. just thought that would be interesting.