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g0t420ndacivic

hey brother whats up i have a ? for you if you have time can u please help, i got the bubbleponics i have germinated my seeds right now i have 5 gallons of water in the rez now on riu i read ur post about this but not quiet clear on how to do this,i put the seeds in the rockwool,take my 6th gallon mix half grow and micro nutes then pour a lil on rockwool,this is where i get confused,do you do this only if they are not germinated or is it safe to does this after they are germinated? if i put the already germinated seeds in the rockwool do i still put the lil plates over them till i see the sprouts?how long should the tap root be before i put them in? thank you i have started a journal i hope you can understand what i am asking here,if ne one else can answer this please do so thank you and god bless

tokecrazy

I think you are asking {do you condition the rookwool before you plant the geminated seeds}.Yes.Drop them in some distilled water and let them fill up and then give them a squeezie,removing alot of water but not to make them dry again.Remove the raper from around the 1"x1" cube.Place your seed tail down in the cube and place the cube in the hydroton in the net pot.No I dont thing you need to cover the rockwool at this time.When you see the tail poping out of the seed haul put them in the cube.Now sit back and watch them grow. PEACE

Giggles

Also if you are using Stealth Hydro nutes I believe you only use 1/3 nutes until they are six inches. It should be in the manual they gave you make sure you don't use full nutes.

I'm sorry but I can't find my disc with the manuals.

Giggles

Roseman posted this somewhere on this site already but here you go

http://www.stealthhydroponics.com/PD...rum_Lights.pdf

Page 11 and 12. No nutes until they are rooted seedlings 1-2 weeks. I think I told you I did that, I can't remember if it was you or somebody else...short term memory loss...lol.

g0t420ndacivic

i have it but i am not understanding it.in rosemans post on riu on page one he explains it i get confused if he is explaining to start with a non germinated seed or a germinated seed oh by the way i put 8 in a paper towel thinkin they all wouldnt crack well i was wrong they all cracked and got the white tap root coming out,in his post he he poured the nutes on the rockwool,was the seeds in the rockwool started with the paper towel or did he just drop the seeds in? u cover a non germinated seed with the plate,do u do the same with a germinated seed?jeez i am so confused

g0t420ndacivic

so reading that it seems that u dont add nutes till there 6-8 inches tall?

g0t420ndacivic

To get a fast start, you can put the seed in wet paper towels while you are setting up the system. You'll want to put the wet paper towel on a plate, fold it over several times, covering the seed, make sure it is very wet,and then place a bowl upside down over the seed to make sure they are kept in the dark and stay wet. The only problem doing it that way is the sprouts are very delicate and you will need some tweezers to put them in the rockwool cubes.
YES, you can simply directly put the seed in the cubes to start with and that is faster and easier.
Let's start at the beginning. Try to use a secluded closet, with the wooden dowel or long rod overhead that you hang clothes on. You will need to get a thick rope or some thin chain, to hang your lights on. If you have the two lights, get two lenghts of chain, (or rope) and make a three foot long loop. Rinse out the tank with clean water. Try to find a small box, table or something like a large ice chest to put your tank on INSTEAD OF RIGHT ON THE FLOOR.. Be soaking your airstone in clean water, soak it over an hour or two.
Those DUAL Spectrum II lights are the very best. Take your rocks and put them in a large strainer or collander, and rinse them, and rinse them again, to get the dust off. Ignore the instructions that came with them about useing the pumped water to rinse them, that is too much trouble. Just rinse them first in a bowl.
Get your tank and lights in place, and then take one of the cups, and fill it 2 inches deep with the hydroton rocks. Then put your rockwool cube in it, (take the plastic off the cube), and do not squeeze the cubes. Put one seed in the center of the cube, and put the cube in the cup, and put the rocks all around the cube. Do the 6 cups and put them in the lid,then put about a half inch of rocks on top of each cup, leaving the cube top uncovered. The top of the cube should be a little less than even with the top of the cup, or sitting an HALF inch lower than the top. Fill the tank with 5 gallons of the best water you can find, anything but city water. Use warm, room temp water. NOT HOT!(I use well water cause it is free) Now set the lid on the tank, and raise one side to see in , and make sure everything is connected good. Learn to use your hands and not your eyes to check the connections. The "hub" has to be connected to the underwater submersive pump. The end of each tube is inserted into the top holes of the cup. You should run one inch of tube into the cup, right up to the cube, touching it. You can start at the very beginning with the 6 cups in the lid, EVERYTHING CONNECTED, then load the cups.
I bought some large fishing weights for 82 cents and used fishing line to tie them to the air stone so it would stay in one place on the bottom and not float up. You must be careful about what you use to anchor the air stone down to the bottom.
Now get a one gallon jug, and mix half the GROW nutes in it, and half the micro nutes, in warm water and stir it and stir it. Drain it through a tea strainer to catch any undisolved little rocks or clumps. Now pour some of it into each cup or cube, just enough to wet the cubes. If you over soak them, they can possible colapse and you don't want that now. If they colapse later,that is OK. Now find 6 large styrafoam cups, or 6 small styrafoam saucers are better. Paper plates or disposable plastic plates will do. I use the saucers. I cut the bottoms out of the saucers, making a 4 inch disc or leaving them 4 inches in diameter. I cut a one inch hole in the center of each. I put one on each cup. They hold the moisture in the rocks and they block the light from the seed. This is not permanent, it is just for now. DO NOT TURN THE LIGHTS ON YET. Turn it all on, the pumps, leaving it in the dark, with the pump pumping the water to each cube, and the air stone bubbling and wait 4 to 6 days and you should see sprouts coming up. DO NOTHING DURING THOSE DAYS YOU ARE WAITING TO SEE THE SPROUTS. Have two or 3 extra seeds still in the wet paper towels, in case one of the seeds in the cups do not sprout. Then you can put that sprout in the cube. As soon as you see any sprout coming up, turn the lights on. With the Dual Spectrum lights, you can and should place them 2 or 3 inches above the plants. They do not put out any heat and the closer they are to the plant, the better. IF you place the lights 2 inches over the plants, you will have to raise them twice a day, due to the rapid growth.

g0t420ndacivic

thats what i dont understand

g0t420ndacivic

Now get a one gallon jug, and mix half the GROW nutes in it, and half the micro nutes, in warm water and stir it and stir it. Drain it through a tea strainer to catch any undisolved little rocks or clumps. Now pour some of it into each cup or cube, just enough to wet the cubes. If you over soak them, they can possible colapse and you don't want that now. If they colapse later,that is OK. Now find 6 large styrafoam cups, or 6 small styrafoam saucers are better. Paper plates or disposable plastic plates will do. I use the saucers. I cut the bottoms out of the saucers, making a 4 inch disc or leaving them 4 inches in diameter. I cut a one inch hole in the center of each. I put one on each cup. They hold the moisture in the rocks and they block the light from the seed.

g0t420ndacivic

and this here are these germinated seeds or non germinated?