Hey, Heres a pic of one of my tubs without vermiculite. Its a 18 gallon with 2 large bags of perlite in it. There are 22 (?) in it, in the 2nd week of bloom. This isnt a true sog cause the clones came from 3 different mothers of the same strain with huge variations in them.

Anyway, After they are done blooming I can just pull the whole plant and rootball out of the perlite. Shake off the extra perlite, rinse the tub out well with plain water and fill it up again.

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Thats a cool clone box! So you never transplant, right? Just veg for week and switch! Sounds easy enough! Im sure if you tried to veg em out for a few more weeks, the roots would probably over-take the perlite? Keeping them so small, it would be allot easier to rinse/re-use the mix.

Thats a cool way to sog, never thought of that! I too have read MANY successful journals of straight perlite hempys. I just never ran into any problems using the recommended mix that I never tried it any other way. I am ALL FOR SIMPLICITY! Maybe I will transplant a clone into straight perlite and compare it to one in the mix- just to see if theres any differences?

Do you have any picts of what your tub looks like at harvest?

I did find that If I dont rinse the perlite in the bag b4 adding it to my buckets, it left a white sludge in the bottom of the bucket. i fixed it quickly by running a bunch of clean water through the bucket to give it a 'Flush". From that point on, I just poke a bunch of small holes (toothpick) in the perlite bag and rinse it in the bag. The bag sits in my tub and drains, and sometimes I repeat. I found it really did help to rinse the perlite b4 using. Ive never rinsed my vermiculite though?

Thanks for the picts and GREAT IDEA for a sog style grow made SIMPLE!

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With the hempy bucket method how much faster do plants flower and are ready for harvest cuz i know white widow takes about 8-9 weeks but does the hempy bucket go quicker or slower then say using dirt or a hydro set up.

Jointgirl Thanks for the compliments ! Lemme splain a little better. I take clones from my mom, get the roots going in a aerocloner. After they have a nice set of roots coming out I place them into the rubbermaid containers. (like I shown above) Once in the container I let them veg for anywhere from a week to two weeks. So no I never transplant after I put em in there. Then put them into flower. It all depends on how the clones look though. At 3 weeks of flower I trim all the lower branches off and just let the top cola form.
As far as pictures go, no I dont have any harvest pictures was never into it.

When I put vermiculite in with the perlite it all just kinda settles into the bottom of the tub, making a brown sludge that was nasty as hell. Finally yes, the perlite needs to be rinsed before use the first time to get rid of all the perlite dust. It also helps tremendously if you water the perlite well prior to transplanting makes it so much easier.



AirPeru - Growth is considerably faster in hydro. Bloom time remains the same no matter what medium you are growing in. ~My opinion~

Last question that i still am a little fuzzy on and JG has helped out so much i thought id ask here instead of going to a different thread. Ive been reading a lot of other posts and im starting to wonder when is it time to go from the veg state to the flowering cuz ive heard that once you find out what sex it is that usually means its time to start the flowering stage and if that is correct then how do you start the flowering stage.

thanks for the info,

think i will piece together a auto feed to the hempty buckets, filled with perlite only, ill try another bucket with both p and v.


what Nutrients are you using?

BTW i noticed the guy at the grow shop covered his face when he reached for the perlite, is it dangerous to breath?

I use General Hydroponics one part fertilizer both grow and bloom

Im sure its not good for you. Its very dusty when you buy a large bag, just need to hose it down and rinse all the dust out of it.

thanks allot everyone, its a great post, btw i got a 200 watt plasma florescent light for the veggie stage, grow and bloom he said at the shop, and a 400 watt HPS for flowering, the guy says its fine.

pic1 veg room present
pic2 plant 2.5 weeks to flower left past hempy grow
rest of pics is of current grow,i run a 1000 watt hps(hortilux eye) in flower,3 part gh nutes,and a 400 watt mh in veg,6 plants in flower at a time.some lsting done to keep them under the hood.the room is 7ft by 8 foot with a 7foot 2 in ceiling.these plants were put to flower between 16-22 inches,23 days from picture taking.

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yes perilite isnt good for you,cut the bag open and sprinkle with water before handling.good luck with your grow!!!

I really appreciate all the advise in this post, sorry if i repeat the same questions, its just that i see different methods in photos ( example, bucket or cat litter tray) so i ask to see if anything is different., Some more questions when you all get a chance:

As for the Perlite, i got a 25 gal garbage of it and i rinsed it down inside the autopot reservoir and let the water run out the bottom, it looked like milk, thats how dusty it was.,

So my question is
1-if it's ok to leave the perlite inside the auto pot reservoir for a few days until i sort the buckets, or will it get moldy or anything like that?

2- Is verculim safe or do i have to rinse this too, i got some of this as well to mix incase.

3- HemptyTray or buckets, is what i see in the photos i like to work with a single area for clones and seeds so this is perfect, My question regarding this hempty cat litter box method is if you have to also puncher a hole in this tray like the buckets

my idea
1-fill up small styrofoam cups with perlite for seeds or clone to start,
2-place them in the final container, aluminum, cat litter tray or buckets
3-once there are roots beyond the cup they can grow into the actual container for flowering with out shock.

So question number 4
4- other controlling the PH in the water what else should i know, like when do i feed nutrients, does this depend on the size of your container and which ones are fed when, have you guys sorted out a schedule according to the plants stages etc.

anything else step by step please do let me know,

vincent ill give you my method of planting in hempies,if im doing wrong somewhere, im sure there are several on here that will chime in and help.
-perilite will not mold
-vermiculite is safer but paper masks work well i water down both the perilite and vermiculite(when i used it)before handling
-i have never used a tray just containers so im not sure but to make it a hempy the hole must be there
-also rather than styro cups id suggest the larger red plastic cups bought ussually at any store the reason is when you need to transplant i cut the bottom off(u must hold in place to transfer to chosen pot less transplant shock
-all plants require different feed schedules,but a rule of thumb with hempies is feed ,feed ,flush

hope this answers some of your questions!good luck with your grow.

Great to see you sorted your pics out Anothertime...awesome seeing your grow.

Thanks so much JG for adding to this...awesome info all around.

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thanks so much for all the help jangel hopefully ill be able to contribute and learn here at gp!!!

You are most welcome, my friend. Just glad I could be of help.

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I found out about this method a while back and I am sold. If im ever able to grow this is what I will be doing. Its simple and effective.

I have a question for those having issues with verm. I have don't a ton of gardening with it in the past without issues. Did you happen to know the grade you were using? I would make sure you use course grade verm as it should keep in the mix better.

Course or fine grade, it doesnt matter. I have used both with the same effects. I am experimenting with clones right now in straight perlite compared to the recommended mix of 3parts perlite/1 part vermiculite. The clone in PERLITE ONLY looks GREAT! No ill effects and is growing at an even faster rate than the other clone in the mix. As of my findings so far... You can just scrap the vermiculite all together and just go straight perlite in your buckets. 1 less product to purchase, making it yet even EASIER and CHEAPER than I first thought! CAN THESE THINGS GET ANY BETTER? How can you improve on PERFECT? (Although I did like the little drain hoses added to the above buckets! Good idea to eliminate the need of a catch pan under your bucket!)

Happy Hempy's,
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wow you should make a step by step guide from seed and clone.

Looks even easier using cat litter style trays filled with the buckets or cups of clones.
this idea you all have is improving so fast i can not figure out where to start.

The kitty litter pan Hempy Bucket is basically 1 Big Hempy Bucket, that holds multiple clones. It the same idea as if you had just 1 plant in there. You would STILL need some type of pan under the kitty litter bucket to catch the runoff when you feed/water. No matter what size/shape your bucket, you have an internal reservoir that you fill until it overflows aprox every other day/every 2days. The bigger your roots get, the more often you will be watering to fill the rez. This is the ONLY drawback so far to the Hempy Buckets (The Run-Off) and Hand Watering. To most Hydro folk, the hand watering is a turn off. I actually dont mind that part at all! The run-off is EASILY controlled once you get the feel for your buckets and how much they are drinking. I add aprox. 1/2 gallon to each bucket, and get very little run-off. Its caught in a kitty pan that my bucket sits in. I dont need to empty my pans much as the run-off evaporates by the following morning.

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1 Can i seed with perlite, and how?
2 Can i use a autopot to keep water flowing with nutrients into a hempy bucket?

thanks