around here jack herer is not on the market. you must know the grower to get it because they keep it for themselves.... i hear the human jack herer has been very sick and wish him a speedy recovery

Yes yes he is. and the jack herer strain ive tried from the dispensary is delicious. potent and tasty. you are right it does not get 'sugar coated' with trichomes like some strains.....but i dont think it matters. i would love to have the strain myself, never seen it grow. never seen the clones/seeds in any dispensary though.....

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I have been liking the Jack Herer more and more everyday. It seems to be a very strong robust plant. It is producing by far the most massive well structed buds I have ever grown. I was just in there hanging out with them and I was thinking man I need to get my hands on some more of those clones. Im thinking I want more of the Bubba Kush as well. It is doing amazing to. My whole grow is looking pretty good actually Im so excited to get them harvested.

how do you like growing in the WaterFarms? i picked 2 up a couple of weeks ago and hope to start 2 clones of Northern Lights or Big Bud in a couple weeks in them.

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"Such holidays in the sun don't come without sacrifices"

i just got my stuff a weeka and a half ago and my room should be finished in 2 days... then i will fire everything up and sea where im at....

what strain you end up going with for your grow?

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http://www.greenpassion.org/showthread.php?t=13054

"Such holidays in the sun don't come without sacrifices"

oh **** here we go again.....

i ordered elephant bud from bcseeds.com....

ive taken a serious ration of **** for this from people. it seems certain people go on every grow forum to talk **** about a bean co that they have zero direct experience from themselves. now in my personal experience i have always stepped up to the plate and go for the best. this is not for everyone! if you are cheap or do not spend the time required for good pot buy cheap seeds. i however believe to grow quality you have to start with goood genetics not cheeep genetics. this company is confused with a couple other crappy seed companies. i have noticed the people who hate this company cannot afford to purchase the best and those types are always willing to settle for less. now i am not ragging on anybody but the negativity i have recieved over this is sad.... i am new hear just looking for advice and positivity just as you yet it seems ive pissed a lot of people off because i believe in quality genetics NOT cheap genetics... right or wrong we will find out in 3 months...

also this company send free seeds with every shipment over $100 essentially doubling your order so if you spend 500 they will give you 30 seeds worth aprox 500 as well....

Please do a grow journal.

By the way, most people I know that want the best genetics get a clone of a plant they know is quality. I know that's how I got my SFV OG Kush and Pre-98 Bubba, cause technically you can't get those strains in seed form, like most of the best strains.

agreesd

how have the seeds from BC Seeds grown for you in the past?

also, have your grows from your Sannie, DP, or various other banks been that much inferior to the BC Seeds youve grown?

please post some pics when you have a chance.


i ask because there are entire forums filled of grow journals and reports from these REPUTABLE seed companies. i wasnt aware they were peddling such inferior products. Reputable means it has built a reputation of good business practices and good results.

There are very few journals or positive reports on BC Seeds. people typically wait to spend good $ for a product they KNOW will produce not HOPE will produce. there's a reason that Mercedes cost $60K+ and Kias cost $10K. in time with R&D and investment Kia could put out a Mercedes quality car....but not now and certainly not when they first came out. Part of the reason is they make inferior cars. Right now a $400 10pack of seeds from a company with IFFY AT BEST reviews is like paying a Mercedes pricetag on a new Kia.

But post your grow journal proving the naysayers(myself included) completely wrong....but for now i will continue buying my CHEAP and INFERIOR seeds from reputible dealers.

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http://www.greenpassion.org/showthread.php?t=13054

"Such holidays in the sun don't come without sacrifices"

wow both are very nice and if they were available to me they would be mine to however alas they are not....yet!

thanks for the definition of reputable....? 20 and 40 dollar seed packs are cool just not for me... cheers

what does the price have to do with anything?

I get my clones for free, does that somehow effect the genetics?

Do you really think the fact that they charge 10X what other companies tend to charge makes them any better?

I bought 10 sour diesel seeds from bcseeds. When I finnally received them 4out of 10 were still green. and the viable seeds grew nothing but hermies! there's a personal experience for you!

do you think the fact that you get clones for free affects genetics?

10x more.....???? they have jack herer for 55 usd for 10 beans.... find me jack herer for 10 x less....

oh and unfortunately price usually has a lot to do with everything, everyday all day long and expecting the best from mid to low cost for nearly everyone is just plain silly isnt it?

A clone is an exact copy of the parent (in the case of plants, anyway).

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thanks michael ive been propagating plants over 20 years

yea some peoples ego is so big even where there dead wrong they won't admit they got big time burned

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No, I don't think the fact that I get my clones for free effects the genetics, that was my point.


They are selling what looks like Skunk1 crosses for 300-500 a seed pack, I can link you to myriad seed companies that have this for 30-50 dollars.


Price in the seed world really doesn't have a lot to do with anything. The best seeds I have ever had were either free or really cheap. Timing and knowledge of the breeder (knowing which breeder is making the best seeds and when) are the most important variables for seed selection in my opinion. Price just doesn't reflect quality. If you think it does I have a bridge to sell you.

when that grows out im 100% sure Oaksterdam or Harbourside (the 2 shops that first started using the gas spectrometer) would be absolutely thrilled to have this come back with a 34% reading. Then from there im sure we will see it headlining throughout every co-op and club throughout the state of California and magazines and web sites writing reviews left and right. 34% is amazing and i'm having a hard time with this company's claim.

Ele- dont get me wrong, not trying to show any negativity your way what so ever, in fact if you dont mind, i'd love to pull up a chair for this and see how it goes and hopefully exchange some ideas or tricks, however this company has my attention with this claim so i'm becoming more interested to see what happens. Good luck man!

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