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10-23-2009, 03:57 AM
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Did you catch the breeder, BC Seeds? Well on Greenman's rating site it says the following: This is the rip-off section. The following seedbanks I've heard many bad things about. They are NOT recommended. aka means also known as. X means they seldom or never send the product. N means sending non viable seeds (non sprouting seeds) M indicates they send very inferior seeds or nothing at all
A-1 Seedbank (X,N) BC Seeds (X,M)
Beeoo (X)
Fairlight (X,N)
Greenmanspage (X,M)
marijuanaseed.us (X) Software Services aka Cannabis4u aka Medical hemp aka cannabis@direct.A2000.nl [L.Pafort] (X)
Richies Seedshack (X)
Stinkey's (X)
Weedseed (X)
Pot a Gold (X) http://www.seedbankupdate.com/su.html
Does that possibly tell you anything?
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10-23-2009, 12:57 PM
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wow you guys hate a lot based on hearsay.... its ok it your thing.... go ahead and get some facts to back yourself up or better yet buy some cheap ones from them and find out for yourselves.
it told me about as much as you have...
face it they have the best seeds on the market... everything else is for the people who want to grow the cheapest buds they can... and that fine just not me...
good luck with your grows
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10-23-2009, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by elephant bud wow you guys hate a lot based on hearsay.... its ok it your thing.... go ahead and get some facts to back yourself up or better yet buy some cheap ones from them and find out for yourselves.
it told me about as much as you have...
face it they have the best seeds on the market... everything else is for the people who want to grow the cheapest buds they can... and that fine just not me...
good luck with your grows |
OK if that want you think after so much info was set down in front of you, that took time to post, good luck with those spendy beans, you won't be that last one they rip off.
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10-23-2009, 03:01 PM
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Any seed company that says their plants are 34% THC is lying. Any seed company that says you get 2lbs from plants that, "almost don't need to be vegged" is lying.
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10-23-2009, 03:40 PM
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when you want to talk from experience or facts let me know....
i agree thc will not be 34% but even so it will be higher than all the other bean co.
as far as harvest 2lbs is a lot in or out..... so
any of you actually grow from bc seeds??? or better yet order seeds from them?
you all seem to think the thc and yeild #'s from other seed co's are always right on... all of your strawman arguments apply to all seed co's...
anybody see the thread from a first time grower here using 3 cfls tin foil and bc seeds.... yea he did alright with minimal equipment cause he had good genetics.... make any sense....?
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10-23-2009, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by elephant bud when you want to talk from experience or facts let me know....
i agree thc will not be 34% but even so it will be higher than all the other bean co.
as far as harvest 2lbs is a lot in or out..... so
any of you actually grow from bc seeds??? or better yet order seeds from them?
or better yet you all seem to think the thc and yeild #'s from other seed co's are always right on... all of your strawman arguments apply to all seed co's... |
I'll say this again, ANY seed co. that makes those claims is lying. I am speaking from experience, plants don't exceed 2-3 ounces per square foot of canopy indoors, and plants don't have the capacity to reach 10 square feet of canopy with, "almost no veg time"...they are lying and it's obvious to any experienced grower.
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10-23-2009, 03:50 PM
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oh yea greenman.... he loves peakseads but say bc seeds doesnt deliver.... wow they r the same company.... how can one be great and the other be ****? do your research look for facts not hearsay... try harder to get under the surface
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10-23-2009, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by elephant bud oh yea greenman.... he loves peakseads but say bc seeds doesnt deliver.... wow they r the same company.... how can one be great and the other be ****? do your research look for facts not hearsay... try harder to get under the surface |
I'm relying on basic common sense not someone else's review.
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10-23-2009, 07:45 PM
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not saying your wrong only that you do not have any clue about which that you speak.... yet act as if its gospel. wow i wish i had some basic common sense.....
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Hey there EB these folks are not trying to give you a hard time but merely trying to give you their opinion and experience from what they know. You can take the help of experience and it will get you far sometimes.
None the less if this is what you want to try then we all wish you the best of luck with your grow. All things being equal we are all wanting the same thing good quality bud to help us all. Peace.
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10-23-2009, 09:57 PM
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You guys are getting fired up in here. I have to say that being kind of a novice the idea or pitch for elephant bud sounds awesome. I grow a strain called Redwood that is high yielding and short flowering 45 days. I have no idea of what the THC levels are but let me tell you that it is very popular amongest my peers.
I know that I am going to put the word out that Im looking for an Elephant Bud clone. I am hoping that one will pop up in my area. Hopefully in time I can report back some results back to the forum.
Speaking of low flowering times. Which this might be just another thread. I am running Canna Boost for the first time this current run. However it is with three strains that I am not fimilar with. Jack herer, bubba kush, and fire purps. Anyways Im told that boost will take a week if not more off a plants flowering time. Again hard for me to judge if this is coming out to be true becuase I am unaware of the flower times for the ones that I have currently going. However lets just say that Im on day 40 of flowering and I swear there almost done. And not to mention I believe that Im seeing the nicest cola's I have ever produced. My plan is to start flushing on day 42 untill day 47 and take em down the morning of the 48th day.
I believe the strains that have currently going are much closer to 60+ days does anyone have any info on that?
I think it would be rediculious if I was to shave 7 days of my 45 day flower. Flowering down to 38 days would be out of control. I am hoping that this dream becomes a reality.
Thanks agian to everyone that is taking the time to respond to my posts and replies.
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the simple facts presented in the claims for elephant bud are just unfounded.
there has been NOTHING to support them and frankly there 3x higher production rate would seem like they have found some type of botany that other breeders havent.
Furthermore, they have discovered some type of science that other agricultural industries would be clammering for....either to use in their own productions or to keep quiet in an attempt to keep it bottled up.
if you want to be the $400 guinea pig go for it...but everyone here is trying to help out and say be weary until you get hard facts.
i know i find it difficult in these times to spend $100 on a 20 pack of seeds let all 4x as much on 1/2 the seeds. the risk doesnt justify the means especially if you know how to clone. once there are some ACTUAL feedback about a strain is when one should consider it. to each their own.
each one teach one is the goal of this sight...so lets keep moving ahead and hopefully someone can give us a definative report bout BC seeds Elephant.
i know id like to hear either way especially if someone else is buying!
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10-24-2009, 05:28 AM
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jack herer very nice
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10-24-2009, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by elephant bud jack herer very nice | Thats what another buddy was saying. He was kinda impressed said that he has heard good things about it. It is growing some of the most impressive cola's I have currently grown. Doesnt seem to be very craystaled out though. But it still is looking nice.
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10-24-2009, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Redwood1
Speaking of low flowering times. Which this might be just another thread. I am running Canna Boost for the first time this current run. However it is with three strains that I am not fimilar with. Jack herer, bubba kush, and fire purps. Anyways Im told that boost will take a week if not more off a plants flowering time. Again hard for me to judge if this is coming out to be true becuase I am unaware of the flower times for the ones that I have currently going. However lets just say that Im on day 40 of flowering and I swear there almost done. And not to mention I believe that Im seeing the nicest cola's I have ever produced. My plan is to start flushing on day 42 untill day 47 and take em down the morning of the 48th day.
I believe the strains that have currently going are much closer to 60+ days does anyone have any info on that?
I think it would be rediculious if I was to shave 7 days of my 45 day flower. Flowering down to 38 days would be out of control. I am hoping that this dream becomes a reality.
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Canna boost is a carb boost. Essentially sugar water. It will increase your plants ability to swell up the calyxes it has already produced. I have never seen it, or any other product decrease the number of days it takes a plant to reach full maturation. A plant is ready to harvest when the trichomes say so, not when the buds reach a certain size. Use your scope to identify when they are ready to pull.
I personally don't really like canna products as they are mostly inorganic (harsh), and super expensive. $400 per gallon for sugar water? Hats off to them for selling it but not my cup of tea
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I never priced Canna products... no wonder my hydro guy likes 'em so much!
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10-24-2009, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 6951A Canna boost is a carb boost. Essentially sugar water. It will increase your plants ability to swell up the calyxes it has already produced. I have never seen it, or any other product decrease the number of days it takes a plant to reach full maturation. A plant is ready to harvest when the trichomes say so, not when the buds reach a certain size. Use your scope to identify when they are ready to pull.
I personally don't really like canna products as they are mostly inorganic (harsh), and super expensive. $400 per gallon for sugar water? Hats off to them for selling it but not my cup of tea | There supposed to be some speacial kind of hawps in it that does its thing. I do agree its a carb sugar product. That was the first thing I said when I looked on the back of the bottle. After talking to several different people I was told and convienced its worth its money. I have been pretty skeptical myself. However Im pretty sure the plants that im running would usually have a longer life cycle then they currently are at.
Right after my original post I went in and was checking my trichs and they appear to just begining to get milky. I believe the additonal eight days Im planning for is going to be very close to peak maturity. With this being said I think it is doing what it is claiming it can do. I plan on going back to my original strain this next run which I am very fimilar with. I will give it the Boost and try to post my grow from start to finish.
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10-24-2009, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Redwood1 There supposed to be some speacial kind of hawps in it that does its thing. I do agree its a carb sugar product. That was the first thing I said when I looked on the back of the bottle. After talking to several different people I was told and convienced its worth its money. I have been pretty skeptical myself. However Im pretty sure the plants that im running would usually have a longer life cycle then they currently are at.
Right after my original post I went in and was checking my trichs and they appear to just begining to get milky. I believe the additonal eight days Im planning for is going to be very close to peak maturity. With this being said I think it is doing what it is claiming it can do. I plan on going back to my original strain this next run which I am very fimilar with. I will give it the Boost and try to post my grow from start to finish. |
Give one plant a reasonably priced carb boost (botanicare sweet is like 70 a gallon, still too much but you water guys need it to be clean), and watch the triches mature at the same rate as the other plants. I've converted 3 separate growers I know who were running the pure canna cocoa line up into swapping out the canna PK 13/14 (harsh as a mofo) for a guano based product, and the cannabost for molases and gravity (with special instructions on the gravity), their yields increase, their wallets get fatter, they permanently switch.
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Originally Posted by 6951A Give one plant a reasonably priced carb boost (botanicare sweet is like 70 a gallon, still too much but you water guys need it to be clean), and watch the triches mature at the same rate as the other plants. I've converted 3 separate growers I know who were running the pure canna cocoa line up into swapping out the canna PK 13/14 (harsh as a mofo) for a guano based product, and the cannabost for molases and gravity (with special instructions on the gravity), their yields increase, their wallets get fatter, they permanently switch. | I run sweet along with the boost and the last two weeks I also run Floranectar pineaple rush and banna manna. And Im on the gravity.
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10-24-2009, 08:43 AM
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You really shouldn't need the boost then.
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