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The Mollasses can be used lightly in vegging but in flowering you can double it near the end as it helps the buds get crystally. I swear it makes them sweeter. Love the smell of the pot that is growen with mollasses. So 1 tlbs. in veg per gallon of water and up to 3 in just water near the end of flower.

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It's In My Recipe From Start To Finish, I Actually Use Two Kind's Of Molasses, A Blackstrap, & A Horticultural Molasses, Mine Start After Ten Day's Of Rooting, & Is In There First Dose Of Nut.'s, Till They Get Harvest. Whip & Ride'm Like You Stole Them!!EH!!!
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I am growing for three patients does anyone know of a place of brand that is cheap? Right now I buy to jars of Grandma's.
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I am growing for three patients does anyone know of a place of brand that is cheap? Right now I buy to jars of Grandma's.
Any Big Grocery Store Should Have It, Like $3.00 So.
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I'm using the same brand Mogie, Unsulfered. Have had good success with it so far, I get it at my little country grocery store. I'd have to travel 20 miles to get the blackstrap stuff. I'd rather save the gas.
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Can you purchase Black Strap Mollasses at say a Grocery Store?
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Ya Bro, & It's Really Cheep. If You Can't Find Blackstrap, Just make Sure It's Unsulphured Molasses & You Are Good To Go.
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Thank you Hatch! Just a few questions on that though. I am going on my second week of flowering now. When do I water with Molasses and how much per gal? Use warm water to help dilute it and maybe let set for a day??
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I use it all the time, even in veg., it's a good source of potassium, calcium & iron. With You being in soil, you can start them at 1/2 to 1 tbsp per gal. & go from there, alot of people work up to 2 to 3 tbsp per gal. when they are flushing. I have never used hot water, some people do (you wouldn't want to give it to the plant's hot), I just add it to all my other ingredient's that i mix up, stir it up real good & put it in my res'z.
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I use it all the time, even in veg., it's a good source of potassium, calcium & iron. With You being in soil, you can start them at 1/2 to 1 tbsp per gal. & go from there, alot of people work up to 2 to 3 tbsp per gal. when they are flushing. I have never used hot water, some people do (you wouldn't want to give it to the plant's hot), I just add it to all my other ingredient's that i mix up, stir it up real good & put it in my res'z.
Can I use this with my nutes safely?
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I'm using the same brand Mogie, Unsulfered. Have had good success with it so far, I get it at my little country grocery store. I'd have to travel 20 miles to get the blackstrap stuff. I'd rather save the gas.
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Yes, It will mix in fine with them.
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I have a question about Molasse, can I use it for Hydro? And in case I can use it, what is the best method, foliar feeding or mixed with the nutes in the res? I thought Molasse was for organic growth, and not good for Hydro, please let me know
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I have a question about Molasse, can I use it for Hydro? And in case I can use it, what is the best method, foliar feeding or mixed with the nutes in the res? I thought Molasse was for organic growth, and not good for Hydro, please let me know
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I use the wholesome stuff and my plants love it and the plus is its fair trade and organic cant go wrong with that...

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Anyone who's been around for awhile knows the 3LB have an axe to grind with most of the big nutrient companies. Now whether that's because they've got a legitimate complaint or because it serves them very well in elevating their appearance of worth is up to each of us to decide for ourselves.

This particular article is one of their more interesting works of fiction. Now I don't know exactly how Advanced Nutrients makes Carboload - don't particularly care either. But here's something painfully obvious: it's not molasses.

Let's suppose for a moment that molasses is an ingredient in Carboload. Maybe even a main ingredient. Who knows? But even if it is, it's obviously been changed somehow. Carboload looks, smells, pours, and (I presume) tastes nothing like molasses. They have nothing in common as far as I can tell except for the fact that they're used for similar purposes in growing. But you'd have to be out of your freakin' mind if you were to substitute Carboload for molasses if you were making cookies or something, so the reverse is similarly ridiculous.

Cakes are made of flour. But you can look at them and tell which one is a cake and which one is a bag of flour, right? They don't taste the same. They don't do much of anything the same because the process of cooking the cake changes a great many things in the flour. It becomes something else.

A tree can be made into a door, but that doesn't make the two things interchangeable.

Whatever Carboload starts out as it's something different when it rolls off the assembly line. Everyone who's ever actually used it knows this without a doubt.

Does molasses work? Undoubtedly. Only nutjobs debate that.

However, Advanced Nutrients specializes in hydroponics. Molasses and hydroponics are a bad idea. Some people have used them together successfully, but that doesn't make it a good idea. Some people win at Russian Roulette, but it still takes a special kind of dumb to play. More often than not adding molasses to a hydroponic reservoir will cause some horrific growth of nasty stuff. Algae, slime, whatever it is, it's horrible.

That is most certainly the reason why Advanced Nutrients came out with Carboload in the first place - so that hydroponic growers would have a way of getting massive doses of carbohydrates to their plants in a way that wouldn't turn their reservoirs into sludge factories.
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The basic highlights are for organic, soil growers to add some at about 15 days prior to harvest, and again all through the last week. I use only molasses on the last week.

It adds to the weight of the buds, and aids in a smoother taste too.
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LOL, I read the entire article and you gave me all the info I needed in two sentences ;>}
It is good to know the what's, why's and, wherefore's but, I simply wanted to know when I should begin applying this recipe and in what measures.

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OK I'm back with a few more questions/concerns.
Some say to include this at the very end of flowering and others say to include it throughout the grow. My first question is, won't this stuff make my soil harden?
Secondly, I've heard the term FLUSH yet, only at the very end of the flowering cycle.
I'm assuming this means simply over-watering the plant until the water runs out the bottom like a gusher but, my plant is currently 4.5 feet tall in a five gallon pot. She sits on a storage box lid so as to catch the minor amounts of drainage. How am I suppose to FLUSH this plant? Am I going to need to take her out of the grow romm and put her in the bath tub ?
I got some stuff at the local market called Brer Rabbit (all-natural, unsulfered).
Potassium 8%, Calcium 10%, Iron 15%, Magnesium 20%, Sodium 1%, Total Carb 5%

My little lady drinks about 2 quarts of water every 3 days without any drainage occurring from the bottom. Should I be including this Mollassas every feeding, every other feeding, ???
She is about six weeks into flowering but, only began showing the tiniest signs of flowers about two weeks ago. She is still growing upwards by about 4 inches a week.
I haven't been adding any ferts recently because I thought that might be the reason she was still growing and not producing flowers.

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Another reason to use molasses is that it has a high copper content.
Copper is useful in combating powdery mildew.
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So where are you at with your buds, Richard?

FWIW..."flushing" in soil is basically just cutting off the nutrients and going to plain water. IMO..... DROWNING big containers like you have at present isn't a good idea and in many areas where humidity is already HIGH such a practice can easily promote BUD ROTin those last weeks of flower. (I found this out the hard way)

hope yer harvesting...and smiling....

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