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12-08-2008, 05:46 PM
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I have two Mango seeds that have just opened up their first single blade leaf. I will be transplanting them once and need some type of assurance that my soil mix will be good. I need a mix that can be used right away so i know something like blood meal wouldn't be good.
Before i get into what i am mixing into my soil i'll let you know what i'm doing and what i have. When they get transplanted i'll be doing a hempy bucquet. They are going to be in 2Gallon buckets with the bottom being perlite only. I plan to veg the girls for three weeks, two more weeks after the transplant and then begin 12/12.
So far my plan is to have Black Gold Organic potting soil (.05-0.0-0.0) 4quarts, perlite 2 quarts mixed with soil, 2 quarts peat moss, 2 quarts worm casting, bone meal, dolomite lime, coco coir brick to layer between the soil and perlite. I know it adds to more than two gallons so i'll make use of the extra some where else.
Liquid ferts i have are Alaskan F.E. 5-1-1. Cannabio flores 2.5-2.0-5.0. budswel 1-7-1 and superthrive. As far as using the nutes i'm thinking of using the AFE once per week with superthrive and no liquid nutes for the first two/three weeks of 12/12. From the third week of 12/12 i hope to use the budswell during every watering, recommeded by Soma, starting weak then moving to full dose. And i'll use the cannabio flores only twice a weeks, also recommended by Soma.
Am i thorough, missing something, or been herbing so much i'm paranoid about not doing things right?
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12-08-2008, 07:11 PM
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looks good, i would use the AFE for onyl the first 2 weeks of 12/12. dont forget to flush midway through and at the last two weeks (can still include carbloader/sweetener like black strap molasses). and personally i would put in a little more perilite. i like mine around 30% of the total volume at least(in the soil- not including the perilite at the bottom). maybe take out a little worm castings and/or peat moss to make room. good luck! post pics :-)
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12-08-2008, 09:21 PM
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would the mixture be fine w/o peat moss? I already know from other journals that she'll need daily watering. I was wondering about the watering. I've read that she needs to be watered a lot until the roots hit the resevoir. I was kinda worried that it would leave the soil constantly wet leaving the possiblity of root rot. Thanks. I'll probably cut out the peat moss and replace with perlite unless others have input.
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12-09-2008, 10:03 AM
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Also, kialie, the peat moss can break down and lower the ph of the overall mix. Check out WB456's thread on his phototron. He might have some suggestions in there, as he is using a medium, peat based, to grow his babies.
I have no clue about hempie bucket growing. I will help however I can though babes. Sorry haven't made it over here before, but I am sure you can understand.
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12-09-2008, 12:18 PM
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Most that I've seen have been Perlite/vermiculite, 2/1 ratio. The perlite wicks the water from the bottom...leave 2" of fluid at bottom of pot, bottom ofdrain hole at 2", I would use a cyclinder shape pot. You can water every couple of days...you will get the feel of it. I can't wait to try it again myself. He is a link Hempy Bucket Method if you haven't read.
Hope that helps.
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12-09-2008, 04:45 PM
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I'm not doing a hempy bucket. There is a hybrid system called hempy bucquet...it's on ICMAG.com. It's very similar to the traditional hempy only the top 1/3 of the medium is soil based leaving the bottom 2/3 for perlite.
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12-09-2008, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kailiwela44 I'm not doing a hempy bucket. There is a hybrid system called hempy bucquet...it's on ICMAG.com. It's very similar to the traditional hempy only the top 1/3 of the medium is soil based leaving the bottom 2/3 for perlite.
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12-14-2008, 05:54 PM
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I saw that method on ic but I'm not totally sure but I don't think the "bucquet" version was 2/3 perlite. And it was originally made for outdoor grows. I read about it here International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - Hempy Bucket Basic Questions
I want to use the method as well but I don't know it to be a tried and true method. I want to do a perpetual sog with 24-32oz cups. I haven't decided what type medium I want to use yet...
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.....the soil mix is 2/3 perlite to 1/3 soil, but the bottom 2/3 is not perlite, it's more like the bottom 1/3, or fill your bucket 3 inches from the bottom with perlite....I want to try hydroton instead of perlite.
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Thanks for that link! Feel free to go to the introduce yourself forum for a proper welcoming. Glad you are here...
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Originally Posted by iliketolearn I saw that method on ic but I'm not totally sure but I don't think the "bucquet" version was 2/3 perlite. And it was originally made for outdoor grows. I read about it here International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - Hempy Bucket Basic Questions
I want to use the method as well but I don't know it to be a tried and true method. I want to do a perpetual sog with 24-32oz cups. I haven't decided what type medium I want to use yet...
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12-15-2008, 10:36 PM
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i know that soma uses hydroton for his grow beds so i'm pretty sure they would work. I was even thinking about using them next go as a replacement for perlite.
I just did a transplant into 2 gallon buckts. i didn't do the 2/3 perlite 1/3 soil. What i did was fill the bottom with perlite about an inch over the puka (hole), mixed about two Gallons of my soil mix (minus peat moss ) then split that between the two buckets. I didn't take pictures, but i'll try take some tonight.
During the tranplants, i used superthrive. The nice lady at the garden store told me one cap per G (smallest size bottle). She gave this recommendation after i told her i'm growing Medical MJ. I love Hawaii. Now when i go back there all the workers greet me with a smile.
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50% coarse and 50% fine. I buy sterilized for a pest free guarantee. Since it is sterile it only has what you put into it. Holds moisture is aerated if you don't pack it down. You can use any type of nute, organic or chemical with equal success. Quote:
Originally Posted by jangel Also, kialie, the peat moss can break down and lower the ph of the overall mix. Check out WB456's thread on his phototron. He might have some suggestions in there, as he is using a medium, peat based, to grow his babies.
I have no clue about hempie bucket growing. I will help however I can though babes. Sorry haven't made it over here before, but I am sure you can understand.
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