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Dez · #1 (**permalink**) 08-08-2009, 04:39 PM

As some know from my indoor grow, I have a friend who let me grow some medicine in his place with a condition he gets to use my grow light and I help him with his outdoor grow. Neither of us really have much of a clue in what we're doing. Our experiences garnered from the indoor grow can take us only so far. We got body-slammed by snails and slugs earlier on, especially snails that seem not to be bothered by the snail/slug baits. In fact, the snails are still a serious issue. A rodent of some kind dug up some early crop which really peed us off. The deer have not been an issue, the Liquid Fence my friend picked up is working great. Our major concern is camouflage. Yes, we're worried about deer hunters and berry hunters, but it's the eyes from the sky we're concerned about. Air traffic is heavy in this area due to a homing-in tower not far from us. We have various locations. The earliest and still thumbs-up site is a sea of green open mini-field that is surrounded by trees, 3 widows and 3 widow kushes, two grape purps that are pitiful and have budded. Couple afghanies that are tucked along the treeline and aren't big and of no worry to us. The issue with this field is my friend's dog has a tendency to follow us no matter what and he loves to bull through the tall grass and ferns leaving trails throughout the open field (we've locked up in house but somebody always lets him out and he always finds us even though we're a couple miles away.) Then you have our signs of visitation within the field. No noticeable trails going in, but it's virtually impossible not to make a pth in the tall vegetation in one visit. We decdied to let up on the deer repellent spray and letting the deer come through, we just spray the plants. A month has passed and the plants are still untouched and the deer have one main trail passing through. Our reasoning is that if a helicopter flew over, we're hoping they'll see the deer and move on. Though we are concerned about the dig spots, early spring we piled the clay/soil next to the holes and well in spots, the vegetation didn't quite grow back. Not really noticeable to us, but to a helicopter crew it may be obvious combined with the beaten down paths.

Another area has little stinkers, better known as ryder hashes. They're in 8 inch green gallon pots and I don't think they're obvious.

Then we have a couple early sativas tucked away under a tree and some unknown plants tucked within the forest/ferns. They all get decent amount of sunlight that sprinkles through the trees.

Then we have some buckets bagged in green garbage bags. We placed them in a sea of ferns in an open area. They are our last batch and if it's an early frost, they'll be lost. We'll try to cover them during frost season. Our concern with the bucketed plants is if they'll be noticeable from above. Any input on camouflaging? The only changes we can make are moving the buckets, other than that, we can throw dead leaves or twigs around thee grounded stuff.

The first set of photos are of the open mini field. Those widows have some ferns about them, is it enough when fall comes in and much of this vegetation turns color before them, I don't know. With helicopters flying over all the time during the fall, it's a crap shoot I suppose.

Thanks for any advice.

More posts to follow with other outdoor plants.

Dez · #2 (**permalink**) 08-08-2009, 05:27 PM

Here are the in-forest stuff, can you easily spot them?

And the bucket stuff. Yes, the bucket stuff that thanks to wonder dog has obliterated ferns and little trails all around them. As well, our own trails about the area, none ever leading in though. But it sure doesn't take much to snap a collection of ferns. :( Deer are heavy in this area too but there sure is some beaten down vegetation along the forest line and about the buckets. There are a total of 6 buckets in along the ferns, or within them, and one 10 inch pot nesting in a fallen tree.

What we discovered works against slugs and snails, potash. Of course that's only good for buckets, we don't want any potash about the grounded stuff. My friend has a woodstove and burns EVERYTHING.

Anyway, if authorities ever caught us surely they would see we were not sellers, just two guys trying to acquire medicine. For the exception of the widows in the sea of green, the rest of the plants are at modest height at best. One would almost think authorities would get a chuckle at the lack of yield and have mercy and move on to better things. lol

chuckd420 · #3 (**permalink**) 08-09-2009, 04:34 AM

That's a very nice outdoor grow you've got goin'. I'm not too sure if any of those plants would be easily spotted from the air, with all the thick vegetation around them, but you never can be to careful. Good luck, and I'm lookin' forward to seein' more updates on the grow.

Jakhama_2_mcmetz · #4 (**permalink**) 08-09-2009, 05:03 AM

great area ur in man, i honestly dont think anyones guna spot them from the air, i think ur safe. my outdoor grow stood out like dogs balls compared to urs

aslong as the plants are scatterd around and not planted in patterns or leave rubbish around then there shouldnt be any tell tale signs from the air,

goodluck and peace

Dez · #5 (**permalink**) 08-09-2009, 11:06 AM

there's another issue, when we were pulling the males we ended up with a pattern with two sets of widows. They are spaced but side-by-side and right in the center of the mini field. And with a semi-beaten path going along each. I am sometimes tempted to run all over the field and make trails everywhere.

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Originally Posted by Jakhama_2_mcmetz

great area ur in man, i honestly dont think anyones guna spot them from the air, i think ur safe. my outdoor grow stood out like dogs balls compared to urs

aslong as the plants are scatterd around and not planted in patterns or leave rubbish around then there shouldnt be any tell tale signs from the air,

goodluck and peace

tokecrazy · #6 (**permalink**) 08-09-2009, 12:25 PM

Hey Dez,Here's a video that's right up your alley,Never get raided and it's by a 8 year narcotic agent that's quit the force cause of there ways of doing things.Real good infor in there do watch it. Greenpassion.org/f53/never-get-raided-13279.Best of luck on your grows they do look good.You can get SM-90 to help with the bug and snail/slug problems good stuff and I think it may help with the deer too.Love the pixs,good work and do keep it up. Peace

Mr.Moonbiscuit · #7 (**permalink**) 08-09-2009, 12:42 PM

the areas of clay cover it with leaves and litter, the green pots you can bury them up to the rim that helps alot make sure you cover the potting soil with leaf litter too.

Dez · #8 (**permalink**) 08-09-2009, 01:02 PM

Yeah, I got both his vids. Wish he had covered more on outdoor grows! I get a kick out of him, he has that dry sense of humor.

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Originally Posted by tokecrazy

Hey Dez,Here's a video that's right up your alley,Never get raided and it's by a 8 year narcotic agent that's quit the force cause of there ways of doing things.Real good infor in there do watch it. Greenpassion.org/f53/never-get-raided-13279.Best of luck on your grows they do look good.You can get SM-90 to help with the bug and snail/slug problems good stuff and I think it may help with the deer too.Love the pixs,good work and do keep it up. Peace

Dez · #9 (**permalink**) 08-09-2009, 01:11 PM

Oh yeah, sprinkled some dead leaves in there, also placed some long sticks along the rims to make it appear a part of the ground. My issue is the beaten down areas We threw some small dead trees and bush where some of the biggest trampled areas are to make it appear they fell over onto the ferns just recently. I don't know if that will draw in more attention though, might stand out.

Our mix for the buckets and pots:

Bottom quarter consists of peat moss, sheep manure, some compost, and water crystals.

Second quarter: peat moss, top soil.

Third quarter: peat moss, top soil, sampling of sheep manure, sampling of compost, sampling of water crystals.

Fourth quarter: peat moss and top soil with dead leaves and twigs.

And we have started adding flora series (expert) to the mix. So far they're responding well.

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Originally Posted by Mr.Moonbiscuit

the areas of clay cover it with leaves and litter, the green pots you can bury them up to the rim that helps alot make sure you cover the potting soil with leaf litter too.

Jakhama_2_mcmetz · #10 (**permalink**) 08-10-2009, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dez

there's another issue, when we were pulling the males we ended up with a pattern with two sets of widows. They are spaced but side-by-side and right in the center of the mini field. And with a semi-beaten path going along each. I am sometimes tempted to run all over the field and make trails everywhere.

i think you should avoid making un-nesesary tracks, from the air, a patch of forest or bush with alot of tracks would proberly sudgest increased activity in that area,but hey i could be wrong, here in aus the animals seem to stick to there tracks, so we have to do the same, or use there tracks. do deer do the same in thick forest?...

anyway i hope that makes sense, peace

Dez · #11 (**permalink**) 08-10-2009, 08:03 PM

Here are some photos of kushberry, widows, and widowkushes all in the same mini field.

Dez · #12 (**permalink**) 08-10-2009, 08:15 PM

Northern Romulan, Widowkushes, Hashplants, grape purps, and one cali-purp

Dez · #13 (**permalink**) 08-10-2009, 08:20 PM

early sativas and some unknowns

ileso · #14 (**permalink**) 08-11-2009, 08:29 AM

for a rookie outdoor grow your doing good

Zigzagman · #15 (**permalink**) 08-11-2009, 08:37 AM

Looking good Dez. Keep on trucking...

chunk · #16 (**permalink**) 08-11-2009, 11:03 AM

Got to love the sun, nice plants keep up the good work

Mr.Moonbiscuit · #17 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 04:45 PM

lookin beautiful

I8ntLucky_UR · #18 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 11:45 PM

Dez you have quite a few good looking plants there. Well done.

Dez · #19 (**permalink**) 08-15-2009, 11:32 AM

It was one of those fem seeds. Think it went hermie on me. Looked female then all of a sudden balls showed up. With my experiences with fems seeds I say just buy reg seeds. Or clones. Fem seeds just aren't worth it, no guarantees.

Dez · #20 (**permalink**) 08-17-2009, 06:46 AM

Had to pull another what was supposed to be a fem Kushberry. Here's a pic of one of the smaller plants. Male, correct? I DO NOT reccomend fem seeds whatsoever.