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07-16-2009, 12:53 PM
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The slugs really have been bad up here in the northeast, too much rain this year...I lost but good as I didn't have many out to start with, but that's the tough northeast for ya. Happy and safe growing to you
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07-17-2009, 12:37 AM
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slugs are a mofo in the deep south too  lost many a seedling to these bastards before figuring it out  they hate any kind of salt, and using the morton kosher chunky salt (comes in a lg box) seemed to work beautifully this year  sprinkle around area (not directly around plant base) and repeat as needed if area gets really moist -- you'll be good when the seedlings are a couple inches high
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Rep Power: 39 | | kultivator Thanks for the tip but i don't think seven-dust is organic so thats not an option for me but thanks tho. Deb-HAS-grn Yea bro this has been a really wet year the NE is very unforgiving to us growers and i didn't even start to worry about mold yet.I'm trying to build them up with milk this year. femmeflower Thanks never really thought about kosher chunky salt my only problem with using the salt is it killing the micros in the soil.I found copper tape that i'll be using next year really easy to use and it stops the slugs for a time.
I went out to 2 of my spots over the weekend and brought 2 big bags of compost out.The first 2 pics are one spot that i top dressed with compost 2 plants were eaten by a deer or something but there still going so thats a good thing.My second spot i dug 10 holes added lime and compost and then made fences with sticks to make it hard for wat ever was digging my plants up i must say it works like a charm.I then planted.
1,Banana OG kush
1,GDP
1,AK99Xfreezland
1,lemon Thai
1,White Rhino
1,Rks
1,Kali
1,Pure kush
1,CDXLT
I can't remember wat the last one was but when it comes to me i'll put it up.Remember stay safe everybody i'll drop back in again soon.
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07-20-2009, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by InpotItrust Deb-HAS-grn Yea bro this has been a really wet year the NE is very unforgiving to us growers and i didn't even start to worry about mold yet.I'm trying to build them up with milk this year.
| Nice looking crop you have Inpot,, sure am wishing you the best....
What is this milk for the mold you talk about,,,,,
Happy growing and be safe
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nobody does the beer trick? or the bent can?
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07-26-2009, 11:52 AM
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Thanks Deb-HAS-grn heres the article i read. Milk is a useful fungicide in the garden, and is more effective than standard chemical brands.
Researchers believe the potassium phosphate in milk boosts a plant's immune system to fight the fungi.
Where most organic gardeners use a baking soda, soap and oil solution, milk may be substituted to combat the unwanted fungus.
Preparing a Milk Solution and Spraying Schedule
The correct dilution and spraying schedule for garden plants depends on the situation and takes some trial and error.
A milk fungicide solution can range from 1 part milk to 9 parts water, to a strong, milk-only solution. A 1:1 dilution may work for a week, but a 1:8 solution requires spraying every 3 or 4 days.
Skim milk may work better than whole milk, as the higher fat milk may clog a sprayer; even reconstituted powdered milk works.
Uses for Milk Fungicide
Milk was originally used in the garden to treat powdery mildew on squash plants. It is now also commonly used on flowers such as rudebekia (Black-eyed Susans) and Begonias to cure powdery mildew.
Milk has also been used to cure Botrytis on a Cyclamen houseplant. This was applied full strength every morning (leftover breakfast milk). Rotten leaves were picked away and the plant pulled through with no more Botrytis.
Black spots and rust on roses can be controlled but not cured with milk. Fortunately, milk can prevent the spread of these fungi to other plants and new leaves. This can be very useful when bringing home a plant from the nursery and finding a black spot.
The copyright of the article Milk as a Garden Fungicide for Powdery Mildew, Botrytis, and Black Spots in Organic Gardening is owned by Deborah Turton. Permission to republish Milk as a Garden Fungicide for Powdery Mildew, Botrytis, and Black Spots in print or online must be granted by the author in writing.
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by Arzeena Hamir
Powdery Mildew
Less than 3 years ago, researchers in South America discovered a new alternative to controlling powdery mildew. Wagner Bettiol, a scientist from Brazil, found that weekly sprays of milk controlled powdery mildew in zucchini just as effectively as synthetic fungicides such as fenarimol or benomyl. Not only was milk found to be effective at controlling the disease, it also acted as a foliar fertilizer, boosting the plant's immune system.
Powdery mildew in the cucurbit family is caused by the organism Sphaerotheca Fuliginea. It is a serious disease that occurs worldwide. For decades, organic gardeners had to rely on making a spray from baking soda to control the disease. Now, instead of measuring out the baking soda and combining it with a surfactant (a "sticking" substance) of either oil or soap, gardeners need only head for their refrigerators.
In his experiments with zucchini plants, Bettiol found that a weekly spray of milk at a concentration of at least 10% (1 part milk to 9 parts water) significantly reduced the severity of powdery mildew infection on the plants by 90%. While some gardeners may be tempted to increase the concentration of milk for more control, Bettiol found that once concentrations rose above 30%, an innoccuous fungus began to grow on the plants. How does milk control powdery mildew?
Scientist aren't 100% sure how milk works to control this disease. It seems that milk is a natural germicide. In addition, it contains several naturally occurring salts and amino acids that are taken up by the plant. From previous experiments using sodium bicarbonate, potassium phosphate, and other salts, researchers have found that the disease is sensitive to these salts. It is possible then, that milk boosts the plant's immune system to prevent the disease.
Milk used around the world
The benefits of using milk to control powdery mildew haven't been isolated to Brazil. Melon growers in New Zealand are saving thousands of dollars every year by spraying their crops with milk instead of synthetic fungicides. The melon growers in New Zealand have been so successful that the wine industry is taking notice and beginning experiments using milk to control powdery mildew in grapes.
What kind of milk should be used?
In Bettiol's original experiment, fresh milk was used, straight from the cow. However, this is obviously not feasible to most home gardeners. The research work in New Zealand actually found that using skim milk was just as effective. Not only was it cheaper, but the fact that the milk had no fat content meant that there was less chance of any odours.
Wagner Bettiol's original article was published in the journal Crop Science (Vol. 18, 1999, pp. 489-92).
I picked up a neat little trick from a friend of mine for the slugs.He uses Chore Boy copper scrubbing pads which i think is cheap and simple. Mr.Moonbiscuit I hate slugs i don't want them to enjoy my beer before they die.I saw the cans but as i said i found a better solution.
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07-26-2009, 12:01 PM
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Hey there, IPiT! I almost couldn't believe it was actually a thread BY you, I can't remember a time when you actually had a thread updated!
Haven't looked thru the whole thread, but the pics I saw were lookin good, man! Sure hope things start workin out better for you the rest of the season, I know it's been hell on ya so far. Hope the rain don't get ya too bad, I saw it's already raining there today, and not too long in the future for me, too.
Saw you got some of the RKS out there, I'm awfully curious to know how it does.
Keepin my fingers crossed for the rest of your season, man!
All the best,
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07-26-2009, 12:12 PM
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Yea it was raining just now got all soaked as i brought 2 bags of compost out today.The RKS is doing really good so far and the Strawberry Cough is doing good too.I can't wait to try them.I'm gona put a few more plants out and hopefully come away good this season.Got any pics of the End Early?
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07-26-2009, 12:33 PM
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Not ATM, but I'm actually hoping to get out there today. It's been almost 2 weeks since I've seen them, so they should have some size to them!!!
Sweet about the RKS and SC, I absolutely love 'em both!
Did you get internet back, or are you at you-know-who's?
All the best,
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07-27-2009, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Deb-HAS-grn The slugs really have been bad up here in the northeast, too much rain this year...I lost but good as I didn't have many out to start with, but that's the tough northeast for ya. Happy and safe growing to you | I heard if you put out a plate of beer, the slugs will be attracted to it and then will die when they drink it. this is what my uncle swears by. not sure if it applies to all kinds of slugs (im sure there are many different kinds).....but its cheap and worth a shot
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Thanks for the Milk article InPot, very interesting......Still raining my fellow Northeastern pot farmer, I don't want to sound negative but the Almanac is saying August will be the same way, rain rain rain...It's just crazy this year, My veggie garden isn't doing good either, Hope your plants were ok when you checked on them, Mine are close enough so I can check on them a couple times a week, this year it's been a blessing to do so.
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07-27-2009, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DieAbetic I heard if you put out a plate of beer, the slugs will be attracted to it and then will die when they drink it. this is what my uncle swears by. not sure if it applies to all kinds of slugs (im sure there are many different kinds).....but its cheap and worth a shot | Hi Dieabetic, I do use the beer can method and the slugs do go for it getting trapped in there but, there are so many slugs this year that I still am finding some on the plants when I go check on them,, One thing that has been helping is the egg shells I put around on the ground. I have more then a few remedies going on this year for the slimy things. Now it's time to start looking out for mold and so on, its hot humid and constant rain..It sure has been an interesting year, Hasn't it Inpot
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07-27-2009, 02:43 PM
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just bumping the thread, i get to see all the pics here in my house before you
all do and i've seen IPiT's indoor op so i know, first hand, what a gifted young
grower he is.
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Thanks for dropping in guys. TG I hear ya bro u need to get out there.Yea still no net for me yet. Deb-HAS-grn No problem bro just helping out.I checked my Farmers Almanac too and saw that and it just sucks.I found that some plants are really hardy when left alone even with the slugs so next year will be much better.
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07-29-2009, 01:50 AM
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The national weather service agrees with the almanac. Looks like it'll be a big battle with mold over the next couple of months :(
I'm with bozo 110%! IPiT sure does know his stuff!
Haven't made it out yet still. Between miticiding the ID plants and spending some quality time with that girl.
I'll be out there tomorrow for sure, I gotta help my boy put some plants out before he goes on vacation.
All the best,
TG
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08-01-2009, 01:38 PM
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I went over to the wife's dad the other day.He had plants last year but didn't have a good start this this year so i dropped him off a nice little gift.There's 1,Sexybagseed,
1 AK99 X Freezland,
1 Kalichakra,
3 Zombie Virus X Sour puss.
I also went out 2 days ago and dropped 16 cuts out,we'll see what becomes of them.There's
1 SSH,
1 ECSD,
1 Dirty harry(S),
1 Pure Power Plant,
2White Rhino,
1 BananaOGKush
3 CDXLT,
I can't remember what the other ones were so i'll just have to tell when there budding.
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08-02-2009, 12:42 AM
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Damn, my man, it's gonna be one tasty ass fall, huh?
Lookin forward to seein what happens!
All the best,
TG
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08-03-2009, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by that guy Damn, my man, it's gonna be one tasty ass fall, huh?
Lookin forward to seein what happens!
All the best,
TG | i'm with you man, lol.
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08-05-2009, 08:14 PM
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Hey IPiT, do the end early throw 3 bladed leaves?
If so, I got one EARLY ass, sativa dom male  It's already got open ballsacks! I got some pics on the computer, just gotta upload 'em and I'll post the EE in here.
All the best,
TG
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Time for a big update.I went out to 2 of my spots the other day one spot i planted 5 more cuts.I took some pics before they went out(first 2 pics).There is
1 Pure power plant,
1 White Rhino,
1 Highend,
1 Bozo's Bagseed mom,
1 Apollo 11.
I don't know if they will make it as i didn't have any copper to protect them.
At the same spot i lost 2 plants and broke one by accident  i propped it back up so when i go back hopefully it's good.
My other spot is doing great the bozo beans are doing great and all are female  .I'm done planting so bud shots is all i'll be doing soon stay tuned.
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