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09-16-2009, 03:13 AM
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Hey Everyone, Im 2 and half weeks into Flower and my Blue Dream(Blueberry x Haze) Wont Stop Growing and my Lights are maxed out..
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09-16-2009, 03:14 AM
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I was Reading About a SuperCrop but seems a little Sketchy Braking them..
Ive never had a Stain That Stretchs so damn MUCH!
BlueDream is no joke..
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09-16-2009, 04:51 AM
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I Think It Should Slow Down On The Stretching By The End Of Week 3, Just Keep Riding It Out Alittle Longer Before You Make Any Big Changes,,That's Just My 2-cents Worth.
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09-16-2009, 07:13 AM
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Rep Power: 151 | | 2 possible solutions? Is Booze Good For Flowers? - CBS News
ITHACA, N.Y., April 6, 2006 Is Booze Good For Flowers? Cornell Flower Expert Finds A Little Liquor Helps Houseplants
By Bootie Cosgrove-Mather -
Photo A little nip of booze may help some flowers. (AP) -
In The Spotlight The Odd Truth Strange but factual tales from around the world compiled by CBSNews.com. (AP) For home gardeners who don't want their daffodils to tip over, a Cornell University horticulturist thinks he has the answer: Get the flowers a little tipsy with some hard liquor.
Giving some potted plants diluted alcohol — whiskey, vodka, gin or tequila — stunts the growth of the stem but does not affect the blossoms, said William Miller, director of Cornell's Flower Bulb Research Program. As a result, the houseplant does not get so tall that it flops over.
Miller reported his findings in the April issue of HortTechnology, a peer-reviewed journal of horticulture.
"I've heard of using alcohol for lots of things ... but never for dwarfing plants," said Charlie Nardozzi, a horticulturist with the National Gardening Association. "It sounded weird when I first heard about it, but our members say it works. I'm going to try it next year, just for curiosity."
Miller's study focused on paperwhite narcissus and other daffodils, but he has also had promising results with tulips.
Miller began his investigation last year after receiving a call from The New York Times about a reader who had written to the garden editor claiming that gin had prevented some paperwhite narcissi from growing too tall and floppy and asked if it was because of some "essential oil" in the gin.
Intrigued, Miller tested dry gin, unflavored vodka, whiskey, white rum, gold tequila, mint schnapps, red and white wine and pale lager beer, on paperwhites. The beer and wine did not work, probably because of their sugar content, he said.
"While solutions greater than 10 percent alcohol were toxic. Solutions between 4 and 6 percent alcohol stunted the paperwhites effectively," Miller said. "When the liquor is properly used, the paperwhites we tested were stunted by 30 to 50 percent, but their
flowers were as large, fragrant and long-lasting as usual."
Miller said gardeners should wait until their daffodil shoots are several inches long, then pour the diluted alcohol into the soil.
(To get a 5 percent solution from 80-proof liquor, which is 40 percent alcohol, add one part liquor to seven parts water.)
Any economic benefits, at least directly, are slight, Miller said. Commercial horticulturists already have other growth-control methods for large-scale production, such as employing unusual temperature cycles.
Miller is not sure why the alcohol stunts plant growth, but he theorized it might injure the roots. Or, he speculated that the mixture forces the plant to expend energy to extract the water or rid itself of the alcohol.
By William Kates
To be honest, I would just LST them. I use rusty nuts and bolts (from the hubby's collection) and twist ties. I hang them like weird little Xmas ornaments, adjusting the position and number of weights as needed to get the plant to gently bend over.
If you have the tip of your stem a bit lower than your now weighted, roughly horizontal stem, the buds along the stem will "think" they have a chance at being the big "top bud" and do their darnedest to be the biggest bud. (It actually has to do with auxin levels and light exposure- but it's easier to understand the way I explained it.) Anyway, you end up with a bit more bud if you do it right.
The buds down at the bottom do get shaded out a bit more and are smaller, but I just harvest the large buds on top, lower my lights a bit and let the bottom buds go for a bit longer to fatten them up. It works.
Granny
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09-16-2009, 08:58 AM
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Same thing I do Storm Crow! To read about this type of LST'ing and see what other members have done to lower their canopy, check out the link in my signature "LST'ing with Hardware". It works just great. Also techniques on supercropping and many other things....Good luck! They look just great!
I would not try the booze....it could damage them...try it on smaller plants first or one you don't care much about. Worth checking out though!
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09-16-2009, 12:36 PM
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It looks like your plants are crowning(looks like a cotton ball on the tips) so your strech is prolly done for the most part...I have noticed in my experience once they crown they arent going much further vertically. I personally supercrop all of my plants and have done so as far as 3 weeks into bloom with no ill effects on the plants overall health or yield.
Your looking good dude...Hang in there and enjoy the journey =)
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09-16-2009, 12:56 PM
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I agree with the above they should peak soon enough. As far as adding alcohol to them what an amazing article Storm Crow.
I have some old Scotch I think my dad might roll over in his grave if I ever poured them on my plants. He loved Scotch I could never do that in principle for my dad's sake anyway.
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09-16-2009, 12:57 PM
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your plants a little slow ... this is not serious.
Haze can be long if your Sativa pheno is very...
I know not Blueberry x Haze but Blueberry x SSH ! This took time ! lol
How is your lamp ? Small Wattage it seems ? If you're in the ground leaves to dry land before your fat again ...
With a small wattage work is + delicate that 600w HPS.
Do not overload fertilizer ... Ec gradually rising tone ;)
And if you can still approach your lamp of your plants do it !
You have a window it seems ? With small wattage must be very close ...
But do not be angry: the genetic + long as other ...
I think that Blurberry x Haze is not bad ! Far from it !
If this is the first time you work with =
you will go much better the second time I am sure that your harvest will be good
Smoking was super good !!!!
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09-17-2009, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by YoungBud I was Reading About a SuperCrop but seems a little Sketchy Braking them..
Ive never had a Stain That Stretchs so damn MUCH!
BlueDream is no joke.. | That version of supercropping is highly effective - but used in veg to stimulate hormones specific to veg cycle. If unsure about a method, try it on a single plant or branch and guage results for yourself. As long as you don't bend the growing top too low (stimulates same hormones), you can get some space by tieing them back.
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09-18-2009, 01:55 PM
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bend em over dude..
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09-18-2009, 03:52 PM
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bend them over, its ok to hurt them a little. grab the stem in between pointer finger and thumb. rub/roll it in between your fingers, applying even pressure and eventually you will feel it weaken in the middle, and flop over. you can do this without breaking any part of the stem (no wounds) - if you look at my current Red Diesel grow you can see that i just did this about 2 days ago. plant is fine and lower branches are starting to come up. this is basically breaking the inside cells walls down then training the plant. much better than just breaking over and then propping it up with a stick and tape to heal. use metal wire or something like that to LST and keep them down. hope this helps!
Storm that article is awesome, thank you so much!
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09-19-2009, 10:06 AM
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Wish I had these kind of problems!
-the Corsican.
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09-19-2009, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by The Corsican Wish I had these kind of problems!
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09-19-2009, 11:39 AM
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Right on!
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09-19-2009, 01:50 PM
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09-19-2009, 02:27 PM
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Nice!!!  Dude
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09-19-2009, 06:10 PM
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Cool deal!
Things look sweet.
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09-19-2009, 07:49 PM
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Nice Canopy, Very Full For Sure, Great Job, All They Need Is Time..
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09-20-2009, 04:47 AM
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bend them right over. dont worry they wont break unless your violent
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09-20-2009, 10:56 AM
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Have you ever treid the product called Bushmaster?
It's sensitve/powerful stuff....but @ 1-2 mls per gallon of water it will STOP the stretch you are seeing on this grow and will plump the buds into dense nuggies.
Might be something to think about if you are going to continue to grow this strain.
your grow looks damn nice though. Just keep bending em and paying attention for burn/bleaching... and you'll be OK.
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