What are the Benefits of a long VEG ?

I throw my plants into flowering when they are over 12" around 3 wk, what is the benefit of having a long Veg?

Could it be that for each week you Veg, your Yeild increase ?
Something like 4 wk Veg = 100% , 5 wk = 110%, 6 wk = 120% .....

Could I be loosing Yeild because I flower early ?

Sinspy, it is all about the roots. Bigger roots, more top of the plant. It is all what is available to the plant. I have started doing budsicles so I have plants I vegged only a short time, and popped into flower. The taller ones in my room where vegged longer (weeks longer) and they are taking longer to finish as well. Take a look at my recent grow journal to see what I mean. (bottom link)

Now I am working on a perpetual grow so I am not vegging for weeks and weeks. It is also getting cooler as well in my grow room so the plants are not growing as quickly.

Take a look in my journel and see what you think.

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really?....the cooler my room gets the faster they grow...within' reason,it can't be that cold already.It's still hot during the day here in BC

i also put most of mine in 12hr at about 10-12" tall
it depends alot on the stain,if it's a true SOG stain a longer veg may not improve yeids.Most strains will give a much higher yeild with more veg time,if i jump from a 1 gal to a 2-3 gal and a longer veg the yeild will usually double.

It has been going down to 5c at night here....I am in On. My lights come on at night. and it is only I think 16 today....so yes, it is getting cooler.

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So size really does matter.
Where would you max out on the Veg ? (8 wk )

8 wks from a clone is alot of veg time but from seed i have even gone 12 wks; bigger is better if you can get them outside but most indoor growers only veg a couple weeks max from clones.
There really is no MAX veg time you can grow as big as you want b4 flipping,all depends on you room capacity.

I have vegged plants all winter, in a cooler room. Just to keep them till spring. That is how you keep mothers. The big plants I have outside I cloned a year ago last spring. They have been vegged until I put them to flower this summer. This one is not gorgeous but she is doing well. I almost lost her due to root problems so I flipped her into flower and put her outside with some SM-90. etc. and she and her 2 sisters are doing okay. I have 2 in a 20 gallon planter with a divider in the middle, and one on a pedestal in the back of my barn. I know growers have had mums vegging for 10 plus years! You can actually veg as long as you want. It depends solely on the hieght you have for the plant to finish at.

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I veg plants for months when doing large plants in scrog setups. A plant vegged for a few months until it fills a 4X4 screen could yield 1-2 pounds.

Larger plants typically yield more bud.

However, going larger indoors doesn't always mean you will see more yield. Many noob growers think that plants must be HUGE to produce massive buds. This is ONLY true if you have PROPER LIGHTING to pull it off. Growing a plant 6 ft tall and trying to bud it with a CFL or any other inadequate light will only get you lots of STEM...not bud. It always saddens me to see a noob with a closet of 6 ft tall plants and a dinky light. Disappointment is just around the corner....for sure.

Indoor plants are grown smaller for rapid production as well as for the fact that light (any light) will only penetrate the canopy SO FAR. The bigger the light..the more penetration and the taller the plants can be.

Veg em big if you have the light. If not...ram em through in micro mode.

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600w HPS, 1m x 1m x 1.8m space. Noobie, oh Yeah, it all new to me.

The more I grow the more I believe that vegging with t5s keep stretch to a minimum which means u can have better yields
some strains I have to veg till 24 inches others I can't go over 12 inches due to stretching
and it also depends on what ur flowering with
I can grow up to 4 foot plants with a 600

I'm a medical marijuana patient in Oregon & we are limited to 6 mature plants at a time. Because of this, we tend to veg much longer and grow bigger plants. I like vegging at least 8 weeks. Usually have 3' plants w/ 12 - 20 tops and 7-11 blade leaves. I'm dissapointed w/ less than 4oz a plant (but it sometimes happens) & have gotten up to 14oz on afghani strains (indoors) under a single thouie.

normally can yield from 25 to 32 oz off of a 600 hps with co2 running aero
if hit 40 oz once
I just switched to a 1000hps cooled and 2-400 hps on a mover so I'll b interested in seeing the yield
I've grown 4 oz indoor plants with4 weeks of veg. I usually only top my plants that stretch a ton

2lb plants under a 600? I'd love to see your growing method. I know several growers working w/ 6-10 thouies in flower who are happy w/ 1/2lb plants. Most people who do DWC around here half their veg time also, but I prefer meds grown in soil(less). If people do single stalk sog around here, they don't talk about it. You have to be over fed #'s to make it worth while. I have the limitations of stupid lawmakers imposed on me concerning #'s.

if you check out my chocolate thai grow (see signature) you can see how shorter veg periods = smaller yield.

0 veg, straight to 12/12 yield = ~3.5g
2-3 weeks veg yield = ~7-14g
5-6 weeks veg = 3+ ounces

this was for my chocolate thai strain. its plain and simple: the longer you veg, the more strength the plants have, the more potential for larger buds. some strains can go straight into 12/12, especially if they are sativa dominant with long flower periods. but honestly i say go at least 4 weeks veg if you want any decent output. hope this helps :-)

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This has been my experience. The only way I've seen sog payoff higher is w/ huge plant #'s & continual harvest. I haven't had the opportunity to try sog myself, so good chance I don't have all the info. I'd be thanking you guys for posts if I had a clue on how to do it.

Thats exactly what I was after, a comparison of weeks in Veg to yield.
Thanks, from this day forth let there be light. ( At least 5 weeks in Veg)
Thankyou

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To Each His Or Her Own, Some Do It For Yield, But Then The Question Comes In " Light Penetration" , I Feel Most People Out Grow There Light Penetration & The Bottom Of The Plant's Are Just Dragging The Plant Down, So With That Said, If You Have Tall Plants??? I Would Lolli-Pop The Bottom half.
I Run Clone Only, In My Experience I Have Found, That As Soon As They Have Roots They Are Ready To Go 12/12, My Clones Start At (i try to uniform them) 3", In A Week They Have Roots & Are Taking Off, I Also Run A Perpetual Grow (i try to time it to 15 to 30 days harvest) And Are Moving Plants Every About 30 Days, In That Time The Clones Are On Average 9" To 12" When The Get Flipped 12/12, & I Flower With 1000w. Light's In Cooltubes & Can Have Then At-Least 10" Above The Canopy & They By Week 4 Of 12/12 Are From 24" To 36" & The Bottom Half Is So Full That The Light Penetration Is At A Small Minimum At Best And Will Only Develop Small Pop-Corn Bub's That Don't Add Up.I Have Gotten Out Of The Practice (just being lazy) Of Lolli-Poppen,But Have Start Back On These Last Few Grows & When They Are 12" I Lilli-Pop Them & Just Leave The Top Four To Six Nodes And Clean Everything From There Down. I Just Shoot For 14gram Of Dried Bud A Plant And It Can Be Just One Big Bud That Works For Me X 60..

But Like I Said, To Each His Own, What Works For Some May Not For Others, But All Are Great Options.

Hope That Helps.

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