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Ok so this could be me mistaking some normal plant parts for what i believe to be the pistils and nuts(i dont know what else to call them!), or maybe im an idiot, i dunno.

My plants have been on 18/6 since they went under the light. When I went to check them today, I saw this! Now the first two pics are of a definitively male plant, right? The third and fourth a female? Am I an idiot? How could this have happened if it is for real? What am i missing if its not?

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Old 11-02-2009, 08:44 PM
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its cool man, no worries, its called pre-flowering and you're assessment as to what sex they are seems to be right on the money. The only thing I would suggest to you is to look at all the nodes on the two female plants to make sure that you don't have a hermie (a plant with both male and female sex traits) and even if you do, if that's all you have then its not completely bad. Sometimes plants pre-flower after a while in the veg state, usually means its a good time to start the flowering cycle.
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These plants have only been in the ground 5 weeks or so and are between 8 and 10 inches tall and have just been fimed after the 5th node like a week or so ago.. Is this really a good time? Seems to me that they should go a little while longer, but what do i know! Two plants aren't quite showing yet, but the two females are all female!
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They can stay in veg as long as you want them to. If you have the time, it never hurts to have massive roots and nice, thick foliage.
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is that true with every strain? do they begin to show their sex when it's time to flower?
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You can always veg longer, but I would surely kill the males asap to avoid any fertilization of the girls. Give them another couple of weeks and see what they are like, it mostly about preference when it comes to that and how much room you have to allow for the height of the plant. I usually flower early as I don't have much room to allow for tall plants. Its up to you and how big you want them, and you want to give the FIM a little while to work itself out as well.
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I think I misspoke when I said that, I just know that many people tend to start flowering when that happens and didn't mean to make it sound like it is preferable to flower then as opposed to any other time.
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hey operator1, is it necessary to FIM, or is that just one of several methods that can be used in a grow?
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Everything I have grown, has revealed itself by 5 weeks from seed at 18/6.
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Yeah i figured i should wait a bit. Thanks everybody! Ill get right to pulling those males..

I had planned on repotting just before switching the cycle. Should I put it off until then, or do it as soon as all the plants have shown?
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FIM is one of several methods to keep the girls short. LST (low stress training) and Supercropping come to mind.
I "supercrop" to keep the canopy relatively even.
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Sprocket... no it isn't necessary to do the FIM thing, I've never done it but I have done other things related to "supercropping" and training. Its just one of those things that people find helpful sometimes when it comes to yield but it can depend on a lot of things( like genetics) on wether it really works.

Zapp..... I would just get rid of the boys now, no sense in keeping them around if you aren't keeping them anyway, just a waste of space and water at this point. If nothing else it will allow more light to be concentrated on the girls that you do have.
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Oh, the males are already gone! I was wondering wether I should repot the females soon or if it would be better to wait a few weeks until just before im ready to switch the light cycle?
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I usually repot mine about two weeks before going to the flowering cycle... that way it gives them plenty of time to get over the stress of repotting and they are growing well again before switching the lights on them. How big of a pot do you have them in now?
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If they are going to veg for a few weeks, I'd go by the 1 gallon of soil to one foot of plant height. Mine are usually at 12/12 for a week or 2 in 1 gallon bags, then transplanted to 3 gallon bags for the duration. They finish at under 3 feet tall.
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I think there is a common theme here, there are certainly some preferred ways to do things that are commonly accepted among most growers, but much of it is about preference and experiences you have had. Seeing as how this is your first grow I would suggest taking some notes on how your plants respond to certain things like replanting, light cycles, cloning, temp and humidity and certainly nutrients... then if you choose to use the same genetics the next time you grow you will know more about the plants you are growing and will be able to streamline your process much more. I use the one gallon to one foot of height method but have seen people grow huge plants out of one gallon planter and have seen little plants in five gallon planters. The ratio of one to one is pretty good though but you do want to give those roots room to spread out during the flowering cause it will help in the nutrient uptake and general health and yield of your babies.
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I think alternating nodes are a good sign of readiness to flower.
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I think alternating nodes are a good sign of readiness to flower.
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