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07-22-2008, 05:12 PM
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I am at a point with my clones I have to pick my mums to carry on with. I have my thoughts about how to go about doing this but thought it would be interesting to hear other grower's words of wisdom. Here are the questions:
1. What do you look for in a good mother, shape, growth, health, whatever you look to?
2. Do you train, alter, feed or anything specificly different with this plant to make her a better mother?
3. How do you veg, take care of and maintain this mother to last and be productive for you?
4. Anything else that you deem relavent to help in this discussion.
Thanks fellow members. This could help many.
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07-23-2008, 12:54 PM
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My success at cloning is dismal, though I recently had great luck with some AK48. I took several clones from some plants that had just shown sex under 12/12. When the clones were at 2 wks rooting I put them back under 12/12. After 9 or 10 days I chose the the most vigorous plant as a mother and returned it to 24/0. I feed a regular high N fert for vegging.
Yesterday I topped the plant to make it bushy, should be pruning clones soon, as these are fast growers. (stuck the top in a Rooter)
This is my very limited experience with clones and mothers, and I'm looking forward to info from those that know what they're doing. My small success shows me the beauty of seedless growing and perpetual harvest.
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07-23-2008, 01:03 PM
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Thank you very much Barrelhouse for getting this ball rolling! Now all you people that have mothers, PLEASE add to the shared knowledge that is Green Passion!
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07-23-2008, 01:39 PM
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i always take clones from all my plants and cut about 75% more than i want to grow then pick the ones that have the biggest root and over all growth and continue the cycle so really all my plant end up mothering in the first week of flower
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07-23-2008, 02:12 PM
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having mother plants means normally at least two separate grow rooms, one for each stage, and that buys normally enough space to keep a bunch of small mother plants - don't forget that you keep cutting clones and therefor is the volume of the plant under control - in the veg mode till you have a idea which one produces the best clones and smoke. if no difference is to notice stick to the best looking ones which grown a fat trunk like stem, and so on
besides, if fund your perfect moms give them a root trim and plant em in a slightly larger pot each time - the grow more roots as with topping and this boost the grows of green shoots 
even to take almost half of the rootball off is no big problem with a plant that been vegged for 4-6 weeks. but to take 1/3 off usually does already the trick
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07-23-2008, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jangel I am at a point with my clones I have to pick my mums to carry on with. I have my thoughts about how to go about doing this but thought it would be interesting to hear other grower's words of wisdom. Here are the questions: Not sure I have any wisdom but I will give it a go
1. What do you look for in a good mother, shape, growth, health, whatever you look to? This is how I have selected mothers in the the past with some success...First I take about two clones from all the girls growing from seed...I cut it, put it in rooting powder, and put it dirt and that's it. I take no special notes but I use a sharpie to label what clones go w/what mom. The clones are then aloud to veg... I next note how the girls grow and look mostly for healthy growth (small internodal distance, strong but hollow stems, bud size and density... I have narrowed the possible mother doners down by the time flowering ends...so I also try to note any diffences is smell and potency...usually there is none that I can decern with good seeds, more likely to have one clunker than one special girl. Based on these obervations I just pick the clone from the mom I like best based on healthy growth and potency...
2. Do you train, alter, feed or anything specificly different with this plant to make her a better mother? I keep mothers under MH or blue CFL with at least 14 hours of light and hopefully window light when possible...I feed em weak nutes except bofore taking clones from her when I up the nitrogen
3. How do you veg, take care of and maintain this mother to last and be productive for you? I don't train a mom as the taking of clones seems to make her pretty branched and bushy.
4. Anything else that you deem relavent to help in this discussion. Yes, one of favorite things to do it take an old mother (over a year or more) and dig a big hole and fill it with the mom and good organic soil in a sunny spot....then let her grow outside organically after the summer solstice....it's like the mom has been waiting all her life to flower and goes crazy with big budz everywhere...if she doesn't finnish buy frost time I put her in a cut 30 gal garbage can and finish her in the basement with one 1000w HPS and and one 400w MH....seems to work well and its always cool when a pound comes off a plant that finishes indoors.
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07-23-2008, 02:43 PM
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Rep Power: 500 | |  Thank you very much Scott. From the wise we get wisdom!
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07-23-2008, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jangel  Thank you very much Scott. From the wise we get wisdom!
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07-23-2008, 09:51 PM
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Scott06, you use the exact same technique as I am using too........Take a cutting, dip it in rooting harmone, stick her in the dirt.
Please elaborate a little for everyone reading.
Do you use a humidity dome after taking your cutting?
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07-23-2008, 10:08 PM
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Jangle,
I don't have to much to add, but I can tell you that a friend of mine has 4 large mothers I'm talking, probably 3'x3'. they are growing like a boxwood hedge, they fill 1/2 of the room. He has a separate room dedicated just to mothers and clones. So when he needs cuttings for the next run he simply takes them from the freshest growing shoots that have sprung up after the last session. Now, he has the EZ-clone all set up and running. So he takes the cutting then dips it into water and cuts the end again, this prevents an embolism from forming. next the cutting gets dipped into Clonex gel then set into the machine. In 7to 10 days he has well rooted girls, the roots are allowed to get about 4 inches long before they are put in 4" pots.
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07-24-2008, 08:21 AM
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Thank you GSR! Any way you can pump his brains to find out if he does anything else to his mums to keep them in this state? Does he feed them differently etc? I find this fascinating. I would be happy to have a flowering plant this size!
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07-24-2008, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jangel I am at a point with my clones I have to pick my mums to carry on with. I have my thoughts about how to go about doing this but thought it would be interesting to hear other grower's words of wisdom. Here are the questions:
1. What do you look for in a good mother, shape, growth, health, whatever you look to?
2. Do you train, alter, feed or anything specificly different with this plant to make her a better mother?
3. How do you veg, take care of and maintain this mother to last and be productive for you?
4. Anything else that you deem relavent to help in this discussion.
Thanks fellow members. This could help many. |
I'm a CLONE WHORE,
My strain seems to be a long bloomer 12 wks.(It my be the CFL's)
I have developed my female strain and I cut at least 4 clones from each plant 10-14 days into bloom.(to continue the cycle)
I soak peat pods in liquid hormone/starter fertilizer and superthrive solution
I cut clones at a very long angle to expose as much inner stalk surface as possible.
I scare up 1/2" of stem above the tip of the cut,a little spit and dip into shultz rooting hormone powder and insert into peat pods
I incubate clones in a moisture dome for 2 wks while soaking in a 1/4" the same solution for soaking pods.
I then transplant into 5" nursery planters
I then veg for 4 wks before transplanting into 1 gl pots.
They continue veging for 4 more wks and then I cut clones and transplant into 2 gl pots(and the cycle continues,tripling yeild at the start of each new cycle)
And start the bloom cycle at 10 wks
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07-24-2008, 11:04 AM
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Thank you so very much Jonny! And so we add to our knowledge. Any other info you think of or gain from others, please add to this.
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07-24-2008, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by videoman Scott06, you use the exact same technique as I am using too........Take a cutting, dip it in rooting harmone, stick her in the dirt.
Please elaborate a little for everyone reading.
Do you use a humidity dome after taking your cutting?
Peace | If I do it similar to Vid I must be doing something right...
yah I just take a fresh sharp cut, dip in rooting hormone and stick it in well moistened soiless mixture in a plastic cup with big drainage holes...stick it on a heating pad....adjust to about 74 degrees in the soil...no dome I check the soil and keep it very moist but not wet with a misting spray bottle, when the plants start to grow again I let it fill out a bit and grow some more roots - when the roots fill out its ready to go...works great with the few strains I have done this with...I think using a sharp cutting instrument is key as well as soil temp and moisture...I have had freinds that didn't have much success but I think they don't use very good hygine (clean hands, insturment, soil, container) when you have alot of one kind of plant you are inviting an investation of something...nature likes diversity....so unless you compensate with good hygine you end up with mites thrips viruses and god knows what else...clones and seedlings are tasty treats for varmits both macro and microscopic
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Scott, previously you mentioned using soil, now you mention a soiless mixture, what are you using?
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I always use promix B right out of the bale for everything...I call it soil/soiless on lots of posts...honestly I am not sure on the exact terminology between soil and soiless...would promix B be considered soiless?...also I think soiless can be confusing for new people like me...it makes me think hydro rather than pots/bags/ground. An exact distiction would be helpful here....help a confused brother out
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Originally Posted by jangel Thank you GSR! Any way you can pump his brains to find out if he does anything else to his mums to keep them in this state? Does he feed them differently etc? I find this fascinating. I would be happy to have a flowering plant this size!
Peace | Jangle,
Next time I see him and his mothers I'll snag a picture, if you want. He also has always had them on 18/6 and treats them as a vegging plant. So I would imagine he feeds them a slightly higher N than PK. I'll check.
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07-24-2008, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GSR Jangle,
Next time I see him and his mothers I'll snag a picture, if you want. He also has always had them on 18/6 and treats them as a vegging plant. So I would imagine he feeds them a slightly higher N than PK. I'll check.
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hello again. i would love to make a room for my moms when i have them what would be a good size room for 3 moms? thinking of using an old cupboard L35xH25xW12 . should i use a different place to start my clones?
thx guys
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07-27-2008, 04:54 PM
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You might need to raise them up to the light Chiefa, but I have all stages in my veg area now. Mums, a couple of seedlings, and clones. just have to keep them vegging so they can all share!
And you just have to prune your plants down to the size you want them. Good question. I guess it depends on how tall your mums are if they will fit. My veg space is about 4 ft high, and the light is on chains so it can go up and down. Good size for clones there. You will see all kinds of places to grow now that you are looking! LOL! I started mine in a closet before my room was built, with a shelf unit in it. It worked for then and at that stage.
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