Just bought some seeds from Dr. Chronic. Well I decided to plant some bag seeds as a trail run with minimal conditions before I jumped in and bought and built the wrong size enclosure. Anyway, The germ went well..10 for 10. Might be 9 my dog got a hold of one but i found it and replanted it. My question is does it matter if you put light on them before the sprout. Right now they get no light except for the light there getting now out on my deck. thanks for the help guys.

Germinating seeds, like darkness. Your using a different methed than I do though.
This is what I do: (straight from the FAQ)

1) I use a paper plate, a moist paper towel, laid on the plate, and folded half over the seeds, and I slide the whole thing into
a zip lock baggie, than I blow into the baggie just before zipping it shut. This way as the moisture evaporates, it is re-distributed
back over the paper towel.
I place the whole thing into a drawer, next to my stove, it's kept warm there. 48 hours later they are ready for planting.
After germination the sprout is placed tap root down with the little bean head about 1/4 inch deep.
Every other day for the first two weeks they get some superthrive mixed at 3 drops/gal water. Superthrive is not a nutrient but a combination of hormones and vitamins that primarily stimulates root growth.
(2) I throw my seeds in a shot glass filled with water, let them sit for 12-24 hour. then throw them in pre soaked peat pellets,
under a humidity dome for 4days to a week before roots show.
(3) Take a cup, put some water in the cup and drop the seeds in. Place in a WARM place and check for the taproot periodically.
(4) Wet paper towel. Fold and put inside tupperware. Place in warm area (like on top of light) wrap in black plastic first.
Something should be said on cleanliness, and being sanitary when handling seeds, wash your hands thoroughly first, and handle as little as possible, especially when making the transfer from the paper towel into it's first new home.

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i just put mine in rw cubes an keep em moist..i hate science experments..lol..peace

Yeah but do you light them right away or wait til they break through the dirt...I know how to germ, the root has popped out and i planted them face down. does it matter if I dont keep light on them or should I add light now even though the havent sprouted.

personally i keep mine under light..other will have nay-say...but i get 100%germ rates almost all the time..

light em up as soon as they break through the soil. If it is cool where you are light will keep them warm.

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thanks..so either way it doesnt matter..i'll wait till they sprout then

i would wait till those two round leaves are almost out or just starting to show.

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i leave mine under the 1k mh light right from puttin em into the rw cubes as unhatched seeds...works fine for me...

I have done it both ways.But like lizard said if it's cold where you are use a light to warm them.Other than that when they pop out of the soil,rockwool cube,or rapit rooter plugs put the light on them.when they grow outside all by them selfs,they are in the dirt and spring comes the sun warms the dirt and the seed gens in the dirt and pops out of the dirt and the sun makes them grow.Hope that helps you. PEACE

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thanks guys for the suggestions.....this might be a dumb question but can you use HID's from a car? or sealed beam HID's? Just something i've been thinking about... thanks guys

a good car hid kit can run 250 300 you can get a 400w hid hps for 200....
if you wanna experiment go for it but watt for watt you cant beat hps anyways

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wheres that I guess im not looking on the right places i keep seeing 279. I was thinking about a few 105 or 150 cfl's with mixed up temps? what does anyone think about that. 40 something for a 150w and 23 for a 105w is that good, do you have a link to that site with that 400w hps..is it a good one?...thnx

you can get a 400wt hps complete delivered for under 200 from plantlightinghydroponics.com

And many folks here do wonders with cfl's so if that is what you can do to get started I dont hink it would be a bad choice.

Our first grow under a single 400 wt hps got us about 7 mason jars full. plus trim I dont know what the weight was ....scales are for dealers.

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this maybe a stupid question but is 400w, 400w when it comes to your electric bill. Does 400w of one type of lighting cost more /less than the other?, or is it 400=400 so get as much out of it as you can?

actually it is more... I pay more to keep my temps down than I do for the lights.
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HID Light Operating Cost

All you need to know is your electic rates / KWH and this will let you know. In my area it is 20 bucks a month to run a 400 wt light but keeping the AC on to deal with the heat produced by said light is killing me

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another dumb question...in thinking for future expansion..can you purchase a 1000w ballast and run a 400/600w bulb off of it? Cuz i would shell out the money but dont have a need yet for a 1000w and just run 4-600w in the mean time...maybe i smoke/think too much...I hate making decisions..i OVER think EVERYTHING

No, a 1000W ballast must operate a lamp capable of the voltages that a 1000W lamp can handle. 1000W is the amount the ballast is putting out to the lamp.

As for "billable hours" (sounds like a damn attorney!) a Watt is a Watt. Power is billed by Watt/hr, and no matter if you have 240V or 120V, the cost to operate a 1000W MH or HPS is nearly identical, as it's the wattage that is costing you, not the amperage the ballast draws to operate.

Hope that helps some!

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The differences in 240v and 120v is the amps it draws.The watts is the same.Just less amps,My digital ballest is 400 watts,on 240v it will draw 1.67 amps and on 120v it will draw 3.25 amps.The watts are the same.400 watts,600watts,1000watts you have to have 400w ballest to run a 400w light bulb and 600w ballest to run 600 watt bulb and 1000 watt ballest to run a 1000 watt bulb.That's how it works.Need any more help just ask but do check the FAQ it has alot of infor that you are asking. PEACE

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Thanks for the info. guys. I got my eye on a few set-ups