Hello all, total newcomer here!

Never grown, this will be my first grow.

On a trip to Amsterdam I found a cafe selling a 100% Sativa herb, which when smoked totally eradicated my medical issue (Which I wish to keep private for now)

Indica does the total opposite, however Sativa is perfect. The only problem is that in the UK, very few people know what strain they are smoking when purchased from a dealer. Growing would obviously remove this problem.

I have found a few 100% Sativa strains that I can get hold of, but my only issue is growing.....

Will I be able to grow a 100% Sativa indoors with 250w lights? I have heard Sativa is not suited to our climate and that Indica is the easier to grow...Indica however isn't an option!

Please help as I am CLUELESS!

Peace and love,
Stan.

It's tricky but it can be done. Chances are that to be successful you would have to start the seeds and once they begin to grow you would toss them into 12/12 with virtually no veg period.

what strain(s) are you looking at? Something worked with/stabilized by a good breeder rather than a "landrace" might be a bit tamer/more predictable.

good luck!

ww

Hey WW. Why no veg period? Because of stretching? Theres a lot of ways to deal with that issue. Sorry, I'm confused. GL HH

Yes...due to the stretch. Especially in this case where we are only talking about (what seems to be) one 250 watt hps.

to be 100% honest here...I've never tried a 100% sativa indoors. I have tried some sativa crosses though...and they STRETCHED LIKE MAD. The Panama Red/Black widow cross I grew once ALL stretched from 12" at the beginning of 12/12 to over 7 ft at the end of the 13 week flower period. I LST'd em cus i was in a height restricted space (4') and they made an "S" and shot off horizontally and they STILL filled the space. They were a bee-atch to tame...lemme tell ya....

My advice comes from taking note of many other grows where folks slammed the sati's into 12/12 and STILL had height issues. Either way...it's what **I** would try if i were heading in that direction. Pound em with light and TRY to keep em small. with LONG flower times these things just never stop growing like an indica will....

good luck dj. May you find the relief you seek!

ww

Sativas can be done indoor and lots of people do just them.. you might want to look into some of Soma's work he loves Sativas and works with them alot.. you might need more then 250 watts of light.. unless you only want to grow one or two plants.. zigzagman has a saying (i think its him) "once you go sativa you never go back"!! and i think he meens it... dont know about instant flowering ..or putting them on a 12/12 right away.. but dont see why it wouldn't work .. and under a 250 that might be the only way to do sativas.. they do take forever.. and strech.. but there worth the wait.

Hey guys, thanks for the replies - lovely little community here!

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@windowpane, this is the strain I was going for as they are Sativa dominant (90%) and fairly cheap for a femanized batch.

(If anyone has any other strain alternatives that are 100% Sativa that they can reccomend I'd be very appreciative)

As for the lights, - yes, 250w are the lights I was thinking of ordering as I am on a bit of a budget, I would only be doing two plants, I hope this will be ok.

@darkstar, I'll deffo check out Soma's grows! Gonna research it abit before I go in for the grow..

I'm happy you guys think its possible, can't wait to finally grow some

Any more help feel free to PM/reply - especially with any strain suggestions that may be more suited or specific grows I should follow.

Peace and love,
Stan.

Another option to consider would be the hormone found in "BushMaster" which keeps them shorter. Haven't used it myself but it might be worth looking into. GL HH

Thanks mate, checking that out now.

dj...

i searched....here are some other growers talking about neville's....

https://skunkforums.org/skunkforums/...hp/t-5730.html

a grow log. the FEMALE SEEDS offering is crossed with Jack herer

Neville's Haze Hybrid Coco grow - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

looks like things could get CRAZY..... good luck!

ww

bushmaster is from Humboldt County USA. A bottle could easily be mailed but i doubt you will find it in the UK.

It works but you must use it sparingly.

ww

Oh my! Hah! That is absolute madness! So big....

Maybe I should look for another Sativa strain that is less ..stretchy? Or is it a given that all sativas will stretch like this?

Bushmaster works to eliminate stretching, but you have to be careful with it, it has a tendency to burn plants.

Throwing a plant from seed into 12/12 before it has reached sexual maturity (before it has vegged at all) will not cause it to flower earlier, and will make your internodal distance increase. Most plants need about 2 months before they will flower.

because you are running a single 250w HPS, and also want to grow plants that are more prone to stretching, I think your best solution would be to run a SCROG. SCROGs make managing vertical height much easier, and will increase your yield, which is important on a single low wattage light.

There is a lot of info out there on SCROGs, check it out.

Neville's seems to be the pinnacle in high/etc...but it also takes a LONG time to flower.

All sativas will stretch.....some more than others.....but there are legendary strains such as Apollo 11 and Cinderella 99 that are sativa plants with more indica traits such as height and short flower times.

Search for those names. There are still folks out there knocking these off/selling this seed stock. you can probably find old grow reports on these strains too if you dig a bit.

ww

Cinderella 99 looks good, will deffinatly check this out.

LOL 6951A....

It's certainly not "natural" to toss a plant into 12/12 with no veg....then again...it isn't natural to toss any plant into 12/12 at any point....

dj....

If you try to grow the Nev's out....look for FEMALE SEEDS version. (that second grow log, i believe)

With these seeds you do not need to wait for "maturity" as they will all be female (not feminized) and will be as close to growing a "clone' as you can get. I have grown their Cinnamon, grapefruit, WWxNL (x-line), WWx Big Bud (x-line) and northern Ligghts and all of the plants were females producing LARGE colas.

Dr. Chronic may be a good source for a wide variety of seed stock for you... but there are lots of seeds//seedbanks out there...

let us know what ya decide!

ww

Thanks for the interest windowpane, really appreciate it.

Well the Nev strain does look good, and obviously have the advantage of being femanized, however the size is something I don't know if I'll be able to deal with (Have about 9ft headroom space for growing)

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Found this on the Cinderella99 strain which does look very positive, however it is part Indica which I don't wish to grow as much..

windowpane, do you think I could grow the Nev sativa inside with 250w lights in a 9ish ft headroom space without running a 'SCROG' (Seems quite advance for the amateur first time grower)

natural or not, the plant will still need to reach sexual maturation before it can flower. Seeds that are brought up in 12/12 veg on their own until they reach this point. There are many grow journals out there that demonstrate this. The plants tend to be stretchy too which is why most avoid this technique.

you could just let her run, dj.....but don't let the SCROG scare you if you are interested in it. It's basically no more than building a small platform with a screen on it that you WEAVE the branches into as they grow/stretch/etc. Such would be no problem for you because I know that as a new grower you will be very attentive to your plants. I personally would invest the time to learn the technique and would "go for it" rather than going for a 9 ft tall plant. In all reality...your light just won't allow for it and would be far more suited to the SCROG technique. that way you can get it down on the canopy and keep the light intensity high on your buds.

my worry about nev's is the flower times. I've waited 16 weeks for a sativa before...and had it not have been for the fact that it wasn't my ONLY strain...I'd have probably went bonkers before it was done. If you read many reports on actual grows you will note that it stretches...and after that...that MOST growers comment somewhere along the line "will it EVER finish??". That's a tough place to be in, IMO....

I'm an indica guy due to pain and the fact that I like to flower many plants quickly/keep a lot of variety on hand....so i can't give you much more advice on the topic but to say that "Where there's a will, there's a way"....

you'll get there. Just read and don't think "I'm a noob'....think "I'm gonna whip this little bee-atch into shape and she will do what *I* want". LOL.

rock n roll

ww

would topping or FIMing several times help keep it shortened? or keeping the light lower?

pros/cons?

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I picked up a Royal Queen Seeds catalogue earlier, saw something that might suit you. Their website is quite lacking in details (unless I'm missing something) but their Fruit Spirit sounds like something that might suit you: Royal Queen Seeds*-*Products*-*Fruit Spirit
From the catalogue:
Height of the plant: 50-60 cm
Effect: High (sweet taste)
Genetic background: sativa
THC content: 20%
Flowering time: 8 weeks
Yield: +/- 400/450 grams

Ah, they have the catalogue online too http://www.royalqueenseeds.com/media...ogus_UK_HR.pdf
Fruit Spirit is pg 14.

I've never used anything from them so no idea what their reputation is like.