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Old 10-16-2009, 10:58 AM
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Ok here it goes Miracle grow organic potting soil mixed with pearlite, fox farm nutes, used sparingly so far. well water good ph.4 40 watt 4' flourecents. I wanted to see if roots were ok and see if plant needed repotting. pull it out a lil and blam it fell apart on me!!! (tears welled up it was my biggest). put it in bigger pot anyway. I read it may slow top side growth. could i add rooting hormone to soil or water to get them rooting quicker? went from 5 1/2" pot to 8". Thank ya'll
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I'll never check them like that again. lol
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How old are these plants?

You may have repotted too early if the 5.5 incher wasn't full of roots/the medium wasn't holding together before upsizing. This will cause slower growth because the plant will try to fill the rootspace and will utilize a lot of it's energy doing so.

More rooting hormone won't help, IMO. What you need is MORE LIGHT. Plants process light and make roots/strems/leaves/buds. Too little light and all of this SLOWS down. Adding ferts or snake oils or hormones will do nothing (IMO) but load up yer soil and possibly...stunt growth even more.

you'll be OK in the 8" er....just be patient and things will come around in a few weeks.

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ok plants are about 40 days from clone. Just hooked up my 400 watt mh also left 1 of the flouros up for total 480 watts. ok no hormones. lights are 20" away. also have a sheet of reflective duct insulation wrap on the side. cant hardley see now eyes are readjusting....lol can you tell me if i should now drop back to 18/6 or stay at my 24hr on cycle then slowly adjust or go for it quick. 1 more thing not too comp literate what is IMO?
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IMO= "In my opinion" IMHO "In my honest opinion" SNAFU (I bet you know that one...LOL)

I veg @ 24/0. Watch for heat early on....and make sure they're AOK....then just pound the H*** out of em with light.

If you do want to work on the roots and give them all you can to try to make more root mass...look for mychorrizae....like subculture from General hydroponics...or Great White (or any "Plant success" manufactured product)...or EA/EN liquid.

ANY beneficial microbes or myc package you can apply will strengthen your plant and help it become all it can be. Do you know what products i'm talking about?

if not...I'll pop a few links

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gotcha on the lingo. well as for the mycorrizae not sure never heard of it. my first grow here. wil look into it and see if its for me. any info on it would be helpful.
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Also, DO NOT USE FERTS WITH THAT SOIL!

You will burn the h out of your plants if you do.

People that use that mix for MJ either say it is the bee's knees or it burns the h out of them. The reason? This soil already has all the ferts in it you need. If you add more food to the soil, then you are double feeding them and they will get burnt.

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these are all well worth the $$$, IMO....

pick one and use it

Humboldt Nutrients Myco Madness

GENERAL HYDROPONICS

http://www.plantrevolution.com/products.html

ALL will make your roots big, white, and fuzzy...ready to take up more nutrients and ROCK N ROLL to bud set....

grow on

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hey will this stuff create an enviroment that fungus gnats will thrive in? had issue with them only a few so far. but got some diatomacious earth product and now none! dont really want to deal with that again. water intake was slow bout 5 days to dry out. was over watering too. but read a lil on it and seen some pics. WOW what a diffrence!!!!! is it hard to use? is it safe? is it expensive? thanks WW. You've been a Saint.
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Jangle TY have only used nutes 2 x's at half strength. No burn yet but will stop!! I am going to Charlotte to see if I can get FFOM for my next repotting. should I get rid of all the MG soil when I repot or just plant them in the FFOM with root ball included
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No you would do more harm than good removing the soil. Unless it just falls off, but try not to damage the roots and do this after watering well the day before. This will help the soil stay together when transplanting and also roots will not break as easily if full of water. Just hope they have used up most of the nutes in there and carry on. But only use 1/4 strength to start, so you see what it does, and raise it slowly so you do not burn them.

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nope...the gnats won't know it's even there. (good call on the diatomaceous) Stiicky traps and mosquito dunks/bti products are the other controls for gnats...

It's safe to use all these products. They aren't "expensive" considering what they do and how they can positively affect your yields.

one week after applying you'll see the difference........

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nope...the gnats won't know it's even there. (good call on the diatomaceous) Stiicky traps and mosquito dunks/bti products are the other controls for gnats...

It's safe to use all these products. They aren't "expensive" considering what they do and how they can positively affect your yields.

one week after applying you'll see the difference........

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Hey WW! So that mosguito dunk does it work on the damn gnats? I just can't seem to get rid of these darn things....and where do you get mosquito dunk from?

One other thing: Last winter many of our members had problems with fungas gnats after starting with MG organic. What I have concluded due to how widespread it was, that the soil is mixed in one place and then shipped from there. So the damn fungas gnats where in the soil. I truely beleive this, as it was just too widespread and consistant to be otherwise.

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man oh man, both of you are on top of things THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. would love to have half the knowledge of Ya'll!!! Be cool and hope you get the Yields of a lifetime!!!
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I dunno where you'd get mosquito dunks there, jangel.....maybe "home Depot" type stores or garden centers?

Online....look for "Bti"....I buy it in a brand called 'micro-lift" that makes all sorts of pond supplies/equipment.... in a hydro store it will be called gnatrol....

there's also Gognats from the same folks that make earth juice. not as effective,,,but puts a hurt on em.

Yellow stiicky traps get the flying ones.

bti tricks the larvae in the soil..they think it's food..eat it...and i believe...EXPLODE.

I agree. i've seen gnats hovering around the MG at home Depot...but I've seen em in OCEAN FOREST and in Biobizz ALL MIX too. ya never know...and ya just needd to have the gooods ON HAND to foight em

I urge ecveryone to get some Bti...keep it handy...and simply annihilate the gnats on first sight when you DO get em.....and you will. (like MITES, they go with MJ like a good bong)

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