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ive just bought a jar of black strap molasses in liquid form.

how much should i give my plants, how often should i feed and when in the flowering period should i start?

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The rate is one tablespoon dissolved in a gallon of water. I add it to a cup first of water, stirr it till it dissolves then add to the gallon. Some people disolve it in hot water first. I don't find it nesacary.

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i use 1-2 tbsp per gallon. sometimes i just add it right in, other times i boil like a quart or two of filtered water and put it in there first, then add more cold water to top off the gallon. i heard its better if you mix it in the hot water, but i mix it in cold anyways (lazy stoner). just remember never to get hot water from the tap to mix, instead get cold filtered water then boil it and add.
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DieAbetic, thats some excellent advise you gave. As I read your post, I'm thinking I should do a follow up post explaining to never take water from the hot side of the tap, but you covered it just fine.
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I use mine in a tea.

A spare bucket with 4gals of water, 4 tablespoons dissolved mollases and a nylon with 2 tablespoons guano w/airstone and pump.

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it is easier to dissolve the molasses in hot water as then the water can dissolve more of the sugars and some of the longer polymer lines are already cracked down by the heat (needs energy to crack the links) or otherwise you give the input mechanically by stirring as mad to get it fully dissolved

you could use it with every feeding but it can plug up the soil a bit and slow root grow in the extreme which then would lower your yield, so to be on the safe side you feed em molasses as you feed fertilizer: every third feeding. if you feel confident that your grow can take more then that you surely use more then that.
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I dissolve 2 tablespoons of blackstrap in 4 liters of filtered water, and use 100 ml of that mixture in 4 litres of water with every watering during bloom. Since I started doing this my yields increased 1/3 to 1/2in weight.
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I dissolve 2 tablespoons of blackstrap in 4 liters of filtered water, and use 100 ml of that mixture in 4 litres of water with every watering during bloom. Since I started doing this my yields increased 1/3 to 1/2in weight.
guess this once more one point for "less is sometimes more". feeding molasses increased my yield and made my bigbud grow super iced but it didn't made my yield jump that much despite my heavy feeding schedule.

besides, is that a general observation of you jimmy or more strain specific?
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Just to be contenious, Jonnyappleweed uses corn syrup. Same thing, when in bloom. And the same ratio. He says it works the same as molasses, suppliing sugars to the flowers, and is cheaper. I am trying this on 2 of my girls in flower. 3 with molasses, and 2 with corn syrup. I will let you know.
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Just to be contenious, Jonnyappleweed uses corn syrup. Same thing, when in bloom. And the same ratio. He says it works the same as molasses, suppliing sugars to the flowers, and is cheaper. I am trying this on 2 of my girls in flower. 3 with molasses, and 2 with corn syrup. I will let you know.

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I disolve 2 tbls of CORN SYRUP into a gal of filtered cold water.I hadn't considered using it with every feeding to increase yield.I did it to increase the stickys on the budds.(giving sugar water 1 time per month & every other week during the last month)I did yield around 2.5 ozs from a 3' plant under 500w of CFL's.I will increase the sugars for all feedings during bloom,and I'll let you know.
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Well GN I also add about a teaspoon of rooting powder when I mix up the mollasses mix.I recently changed from using powder to gel for cloning and had 2 full bottles of powder left and thought this would be a good way to use then up. I'm sure that is part of the increase, I started both at the same time.
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Plants benefit greatly from using it in veg as well. Your soil will be alive and popping by the time you start 12/12 if you use it in veg.

I found some "horticultural" grade molasses from my local garden center. It was $12 for a gallon. The Grandma's Molasses I used to get from WalMart was almost $3 for what really amounts to nothing. To use consistently....It almost is like buying more nutes.

All my plants/flowers drink the tea. From the time they hit the dirt until chop. The sweet goodness is part of every watering or feeding. Other than costs.....There's no reason not to use it during veg as well.

Maybe this is why I can reuse my soil with no problems. That, and livening it up a bit between crops.
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hey fellows, Is there no data on using straight sugar? I mean of course disolved in water, or does this not work? Molasses is a byproduct of sugar.

Just curious, and enquiring minds want to know! ya know?
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Actually you can use sugar. BUT....Molasses is more beneficial to your plant because it also contains almost all the trace minerals that your plant requires.

So, if you arent feeding all the macro/micro nutrients to your plant and supplementing with just sugar.....You'll still end up with a deficiency.

If you arent feeding all the macro/micros but use molasses to supplement feeding.....Your plants will get what it's missing from your molasses.

So in short yes you can use sugar.....But molasses is beneficial not just the soil....but the plant directly.
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Im surprised nobody is mentioning its use as a foliar feed or pest deterent.

You'd think pouring a sugar product into your soil or sparying the foliage with it would attract pests. In my outdoor garden I notice the opposite. Ants in particular cant stand the stuff.

And its those dreaded ants that farm the aphids....Bringing them to your plants.
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thx people lots of good info.

one more question.

i fill a 3 gallon bucket and add 3 tbs molas, then i ph the mix to 6.5.
the problem is that when i test the ph a couple of days later it drops to ph 5.2

do i have to mix a new solution every time i want to fed?
or should i just reajust the ph?

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You should mix fresh at each feeding. Never a good idea to mix nutes and let them sit before feeding. Only exception I can think of is a organic tea or the like.

I often only have a single plant to water, and I like to pour at least 1/2 gal though them, so, I mix approx. 1.5 tsp. of molasses in a cup of warm water, mix it good then blend with the 1/2 gal, pH and then feed immediately.

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You all are talking about using molassas in soil. What about HYDRO . I've been warned against using it in my flood and drain. Gums up the pump, was the reason. What do you guys think?
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I know for Hydro you can use SWEET. Never use molasses or any other kind of pure sugar or you will for sure have a mess.

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