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11-04-2009, 02:25 PM
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quick questin,my kit came with 2 bulbs 1 for flowering 1 for vegging,both 2800 lums,im growing in a small closet,will these be enough for entire grow?im running both now 24-7 as per instructions.seems fine so far but i keep reading about huge lights people use?these are sunlight cf 42 wats 2800 lums
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11-04-2009, 02:49 PM
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To my knowledge, for vegging you need 6500k and flower 2400 to 3000k. I am unsure what type of lights you are asking about. Can you post pictures or a link to where you got them from? That might help us help YOU.
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11-04-2009, 02:57 PM
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this is the kit i got came with the 1st blbs mentioned i didnt upgrade do to money thing,i can now get bigger bulbs if u people who know think i need em,so far so good,seeds on fri now on wen are 2 inch plants.thanks for the help it means alot SH Hydroponics, Inc. > Special Combo Deals it is the $189 kit
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11-04-2009, 04:04 PM
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OH DEAR! I have not heard good things about stealth hydro. I will send one of our hydro gurus over here to give you a hand. This company has a reputation for selling things that, to put it diplomatically, do not hold up to the test of time.
Just hold tight. I am a dirt grower so I cannot help you with this and I have no experiance with this type of bulb.
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11-04-2009, 04:18 PM
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ok thanks
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11-04-2009, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Barney quick questin,my kit came with 2 bulbs 1 for flowering 1 for vegging,both 2800 lums,im growing in a small closet,will these be enough for entire grow?im running both now 24-7 as per instructions.seems fine so far but i keep reading about huge lights people use?these are sunlight cf 42 wats 2800 lums
thanks  | Well, From What I Read On There Site, You Have The Dual-Spectrum Bulbs, Correct??,,You Will Need To Run Both Bulbs Vegging & Flowering.
And Yes, These Will Be Okay For The Whole Grow, But With That Said, More Light Is Always Better, But If This Is What You Could Afford Right Know, This Is What We Will Work With, And We Will Have Amazing Results!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Barney this is the kit i got came with the 1st blbs mentioned i didnt upgrade do to money thing,i can now get bigger bulbs if u people who know think i need em,so far so good,seeds on fri now on wen are 2 inch plants.thanks for the help it means alot SH Hydroponics, Inc. > Special Combo Deals it is the $189 kit | Okay, With This Set-Up, I Would Advise You Not To Veg Them For Very Long, Maybe To Like 6", Reason, So When You Flip To Flowering They Won't Out Grow The Light's, And You Will Be Able To Penetrate The Plants The Best.
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11-04-2009, 05:06 PM
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hey thanks alot man.that takes a load off my mind,i will try to get some pics soon,i got 4 bout 2 inches tall,2 didnt take so i replaced them they will just have to catch up i guess,put in as seeds on fri had sprouts on mon bout an inch when i got home i was pleasantly surprised,i will do this grow as u say and flower them early then up grade my lights for next one,once again thanks for good and prompt help
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11-04-2009, 09:26 PM
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hey hatch i just ordered a 150 watt hps supposse to put out 16000 lumes,now with that set up can i veg the plants a little longer using my duel spectrum lights?from what i read the hps is not that good for vegging only flowering,(altough the site selling it claims it good for both)is that true in your opinion?and also in your opinion will the duel spectrum lights i have be ok to veg them longer?i dont know why but if possible i would like them to grow taller 6 inches when i flower them 
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11-07-2009, 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Barney hey hatch i just ordered a 150 watt hps supposse to put out 16000 lumes,now with that set up can i veg the plants a little longer using my duel spectrum lights?from what i read the hps is not that good for vegging only flowering,(altough the site selling it claims it good for both)is that true in your opinion?and also in your opinion will the duel spectrum lights i have be ok to veg them longer?i dont know why but if possible i would like them to grow taller 6 inches when i flower them 
thanks | Ya, The 150hps Will Help, Yes You Can Use It For Both Veg/Flower It Will Make The Plant Stretch A Bit More, But No Big Deal, But With That Said, Your Dual-Spectrum Light's You Have Will Veg Just Fine, Then You Can Add The 150hps As The Main Light & Move The Dual-Spectrum Light For Supplementary Side Lighting.
One Thing We Forgot To Tell Ya, The Reason You Would Need To Flip Early Like 6", When You Flip Them 12/12 For The First Three Weeks To The Fourth Week They Are Going To Tripple If Not More In Size, So After The Fourth Week They Could Easily Be 18" To Even 30", Just Depends On Strain's, So They Aren't Just Going To Be 6" When They Finish, Does That Make More Since???
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11-07-2009, 03:18 PM
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yes that makes perfect sense,and i will do as u say and the hp when i switch anf cfls for side lights i will do it when they 6 inches,im excited i got 2 new leaves on eatch on today now they 4 leaves at a week old,looks like 4 plants gonna make it the 2 i replanted didnt make it i think my light simply dont get to the far end of set up.but 4 is kool with me,hell id be happy with one nice one,thanks for the help.im reading on how to tell males from fe males but im sure ill need ur advice when the time comes.
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11-07-2009, 03:29 PM
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Sounds Good, If The Light Isn't Reaching All Of Them ??? Every Other Day You Might Want To Rotate The Plants Around So They All Get Some Light.
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11-07-2009, 09:11 PM
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ill do that.thanks
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11-16-2009, 06:59 PM
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wow jangel u were so right about stealth hyro,this set up is a peice of crap.nothing but problems,on my second pump in 2 week and know its clogging i even put nutes in blender the strained em in a coffee filter.still clogging.i went and got some some pots and some miracle grow and put them in dirt,they 2 weeks old and 2- 3 inches tall with lots of leaves dont wanna lose em due to starvation in this crappy setup.im sure the change from hydro to dirt will freak them out at first but hopefully it will save them.wish i had spent the 200 on lights insted of this peice of crap
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11-16-2009, 10:23 PM
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Barney,
You may want to try something besides MG. Fox Farms, Roots Organic or something that will be recommended by another member. You will get the answers you need, this is for sure.
I have more faith in these mediums. I also may be incorrect about Miracle Grow, I know a man that grows with it and I am never impressed, he swears by it. Who knows, perhaps search the indoor forum and it will be of help.
Roots Organic Oregonism will help with the stress. Good luck with the conversion.
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11-16-2009, 10:36 PM
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I have heard, and had bad experience with miracle grow... it tends to have a ton of nutrient in it that lasts for months, and too much nitrogen generally. I used fox farm ocean forest on my second grow and was much happier with the control I had and the lack of issues initially with over feeding. I'm not a fan of MG but I think they may have an organic mix now that isn't quite as potent. I'm sure someone else will be along to give more insight into this for you.
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11-17-2009, 12:00 AM
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thanks for the input guys,i have heard mg is good and ive heard its bad,i live in the boondocks and needed to transplant quickly it was all i could get so i guess i will find out if it any good,i will keep u posted,next grow i will buy soil plain and put the nutes in myself if this mg sucks but im hopeing for the best,wish me luck | 
11-17-2009, 12:11 AM
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Good luck to you , for finnishing the plant off I recomend Bud Blaster by supernatural you use very little but it works like a hot dam. Is very pricey.
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11-17-2009, 01:30 AM
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sweet i will give that a try,i heard with mg u dont add ferts cept one time before u flower,so bud blaster sounds good.
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11-17-2009, 05:26 PM
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I have had pretty good results with MG, you jusut need to mix it at about 1/4 of the recomended strength !!
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11-17-2009, 08:30 PM
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that bud blaster is specially formulated for pot flowering, use 1/4 teaspoon per 2 gallonsof water.
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