Home Who's Online Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   Dedicated to Cannabis Education, Recreational. Medicinal, and Cultivation. > The Gardens > Newcomers Questions Welcome Here
Register FAQ Calendar Gallery Arcade Mark Forums Read Chat Room

Newcomers Questions Welcome Here This Is Where It All Starts.


Lighting??Im so confused

Newcomers Questions Welcome Here


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-05-2008, 12:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
Tokin & smokin
BudMaster

 

Gallery: 0
Thanks: 9
Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts
Flyarmy2007 has a spectacular aura aboutFlyarmy2007 has a spectacular aura about
Activity Longevity
0/20 13/20
Today Posts
0/0 sssssss76
Default Lighting??Im so confused

OK i have been looking into lighting systems cause i have been told a 600w HPS system is the best way to go for my grow closet. Now i know i need a 600w HPS bulb, but what do these ballast things do? Does it cool my bulb or is that a whole other thing i have to buy? I am so lost on all of this any help at all i very much appericated. Thanks.Peace.
Flyarmy2007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Advertisements

Old 08-05-2008, 12:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
Tokin & smokin
Seedling

 

 
KYbudShredder's Avatar
 

Location: Cave Country USA
Gallery: 0
Thanks: 7
Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
KYbudShredder is on a distinguished road
Activity Longevity
0/20 12/20
Today Posts
0/0 sssssss43
Default

A ballast keeps the current flow thru your bulb constant. Your household electricity(AC) pulses if you will, 60 times per second( This is what is meant by Hertz or Hz) The ballast ballances out this pulse. No it does not cool the bulb that I know of, so you need lots of moving air, FANS....Good luck, we are here to help
__________________
Shit happens when u party naked!

This Is All Fake, I lie and talk about things I find on the internet.
KYbudShredder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2008, 12:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
Grower
BudMaster

 
GreenGoblin's Avatar
 

Gallery: 0
Thanks: 93
Thanked 112 Times in 88 Posts
GreenGoblin is a splendid one to beholdGreenGoblin is a splendid one to beholdGreenGoblin is a splendid one to beholdGreenGoblin is a splendid one to beholdGreenGoblin is a splendid one to beholdGreenGoblin is a splendid one to behold
Activity Longevity
1/20 7/20
Today Posts
0/0 ssssss301
Default

Hey Fly.. the ballast is the part makes the bulb actually work and does not cool it. Check out the section on electronic ballasts on wikipedia..

Electrical ballast - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think a lot of people like to cool tube style reflectors and a remote ballast. The cooltube lets you draw air through the tube.. usually about a 6" one.. and over the bulb.. then out of the grow area. That way.. you have no heat issues.

If you look on hidhut.com they have some under the lighting kits i believe..
__________________
GreenGoblin


http://www.greenpassion.org/f24/gree...rst-grow-5887/

I am a compulsive liar, and nothing I say should be taken seriously. All posts are strictly for entertainment purposes.
GreenGoblin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2008, 12:35 AM   #4 (permalink)
Tokin & smokin
BudMaster

 

Gallery: 0
Thanks: 9
Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts
Flyarmy2007 has a spectacular aura aboutFlyarmy2007 has a spectacular aura about
Activity Longevity
0/20 13/20
Today Posts
0/0 sssssss76
Default

I have been looking on ebay and found a 600w lighting system here.
Now it says its an air cooled grow light so i assume that would mean it cools itself, but i have no idea if i need to hook a fan up to it or something along those lines, or does it just do it all by itself? Now if it cools itself does the ballast like regulate electricity or something?.Thanks.Peace.

Flyarmy2007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2008, 12:36 AM   #5 (permalink)
Grower
BudMaster

 
GreenGoblin's Avatar
 

Gallery: 0
Thanks: 93
Thanked 112 Times in 88 Posts
GreenGoblin is a splendid one to beholdGreenGoblin is a splendid one to beholdGreenGoblin is a splendid one to beholdGreenGoblin is a splendid one to beholdGreenGoblin is a splendid one to beholdGreenGoblin is a splendid one to behold
Activity Longevity
1/20 7/20
Today Posts
0/0 ssssss301
Default

I was thinking something like this maybe? This is only a 400W.. but you get the idea.

400W HPS Digital Ballast, Bulb and Glass Tube Reflector Combo

I bought one with a built in ballast and they are heavy.. so a pain in the ass to raise and lower. In hindsight, the remote ballast would be better in my opinion.
__________________
GreenGoblin


http://www.greenpassion.org/f24/gree...rst-grow-5887/

I am a compulsive liar, and nothing I say should be taken seriously. All posts are strictly for entertainment purposes.
GreenGoblin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2008, 12:38 AM   #6 (permalink)
Tokin & smokin
BudMaster

 

Gallery: 0
Thanks: 9
Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts
Flyarmy2007 has a spectacular aura aboutFlyarmy2007 has a spectacular aura about
Activity Longevity
0/20 13/20
Today Posts
0/0 sssssss76
Default

Thanks a lot guys you really cleared things up for me and im more confident about this whole lighting situation.
Flyarmy2007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2008, 12:38 AM   #7 (permalink)
Grower
BudMaster

 
GreenGoblin's Avatar
 

Gallery: 0
Thanks: 93
Thanked 112 Times in 88 Posts
GreenGoblin is a splendid one to beholdGreenGoblin is a splendid one to beholdGreenGoblin is a splendid one to beholdGreenGoblin is a splendid one to beholdGreenGoblin is a splendid one to beholdGreenGoblin is a splendid one to behold
Activity Longevity
1/20 7/20
Today Posts
0/0 ssssss301
Default

That one is "air coolable" meaning you need to hookup a seperate fan to pull air over it. I did so with mine and it works well..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyarmy2007 View Post
I have been looking on ebay and found a 600w lighting system here.
Now it says its an air cooled grow light so i assume that would mean it cools itself, but i have no idea if i need to hook a fan up to it or something along those lines, or does it just do it all by itself? Now if it cools itself does the ballast like regulate electricity or something?.Thanks.Peace.
__________________
GreenGoblin


http://www.greenpassion.org/f24/gree...rst-grow-5887/

I am a compulsive liar, and nothing I say should be taken seriously. All posts are strictly for entertainment purposes.
GreenGoblin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2008, 12:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
Tokin & smokin
Seedling

 

 
KYbudShredder's Avatar
 

Location: Cave Country USA
Gallery: 0
Thanks: 7
Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
KYbudShredder is on a distinguished road
Activity Longevity
0/20 12/20
Today Posts
0/0 sssssss43
Default

The "air cooled" usually means the reflector(hood unit) has a built in fitting on the outside where you attach a squirrel cage fan and a duct to blow air across the tube. Yes the ballast only regulates the flow of electricity... explained a little bit more in my first reply. Also there are two types of ballasts on the market today...digital and magnetic. Not sure if one is better than the other( I am a CFL guy personally because of space and heat issues, CFL's are all self ballast bulbs.) I do know that the digital ones are a little more pricey.
__________________
Shit happens when u party naked!

This Is All Fake, I lie and talk about things I find on the internet.
KYbudShredder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2008, 12:50 AM   #9 (permalink)
Grower
BudMaster

 

Gallery: 0
Thanks: 245
Thanked 62 Times in 44 Posts
Fman is just really niceFman is just really niceFman is just really niceFman is just really niceFman is just really nice
Activity Longevity
2/20 7/20
Today Posts
0/0 ssssss332
Default

What ever type of reflector you get, you will need to cool it. A 600watt light in a closet will need a good size fan to keep temps down. There's a formula in the faq section to calculate what size fan you will need. From my mistakes I have learned to then go one size bigger. Im sure you'll find many people here who are on their second or third fans, cause the first ones just were'nt big enough.
Fman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2008, 01:02 AM   #10 (permalink)
Tokin & smokin
BudMaster

 

Gallery: 0
Thanks: 9
Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts
Flyarmy2007 has a spectacular aura aboutFlyarmy2007 has a spectacular aura about
Activity Longevity
0/20 13/20
Today Posts
0/0 sssssss76
Default

. So the whole point of the fan is to cool the incoming air into the box so that cooler air is going towards my lights and plants right? and doing the formula i should use a 500CFM fan using Fman's idea of going a size up. Should i mount the fan on the top of my box where i can put an intake or on the bottom of the box for intake, or would the location of the fan not matter at all?Thanks.Peace.
Flyarmy2007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Lighting Flyarmy2007 Newcomers Questions Welcome Here 2 07-31-2008 08:18 PM
Yellowing Leaves, I'm confused Ron Newcomers Questions Welcome Here 20 07-31-2008 03:54 PM
HELP!!! I'm confused! ImAlwaysHigh Newcomers Questions Welcome Here 7 03-10-2008 09:50 PM
Co2 and lighting videoman Advanced growing techniques 0 02-16-2008 10:27 AM
All about lighting videoman Newcomers Questions Welcome Here 7 08-23-2007 06:51 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39