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Old 10-18-2009, 06:21 AM
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This my 1st try @ growing instead of buying.
I use to buy but feel very robbed buy the person i got my weed from.
So I wanted to learn how to grow. I do not need much for it is just for me and my sickle cell pain. I use a vaporizor cause smoke is worst.
I took the left over seeds from my smoke and purchased an Areogarden to grow some small amount of weed in. (Will try soil later when I move to a better house) As of now I have grown my unknown strain for 3 months.
I wanted to be sure before I harvested the plant.

Do u guys think it looks ready enough to harvest. and how would u harvest this plant. ( could u point me in right direction)
BAsed on my looking on the net it seem they look ready but i want to be sure that all.
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It's impossible to tell with the naked eye. You need a very strong magnifying glass or a small microscope. You can get one at Radio Shack for less than $15.

Depending on the desired potency, you wait until a third of the trichomes are amber. If you want it stronger, wait longer.
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I haven't harvested yet (on the track), but I do remember reading that if 60% of the pistils have already turned brown, that is a good indicative that you have to harvest, in case you don't have a magnifier. However, if you do, then you should have something like 50% of the Trichs amber.

Look around the site. There are plenty of posts addressing your question.

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I haven't harvested yet (on the track), but I do remember reading that if 60% of the pistils have already turned brown, that is a good indicative that you have to harvest, in case you don't have a magnifier. However, if you do, then you should have something like 50% of the Trichs amber.
It's very strain-dependent. If you grow White Widow out until it's half amber, you have couch-lock weed. Same with the pistils. Some strains might take months to have 60% red/brown hairs.

Basically, it's only $15 to be sure you're ready to harvest. If you need to cut $15 out of your budget, don't do it there!
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could you get a closer pic of one of the heads on your plant?
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they dont look ready though.. look like they could do with another few weeks
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Hi all!!

[QUOTE=Michael;153554]It's very strain-dependent. If you grow White Widow out until it's half amber, you have couch-lock weed. Same with the pistils. Some strains might take months to have 60% red/brown hairs.

First, I do avail the magnifier. Haven't had the chance to use it yet, though...

I got somehow lost on your reply. Not sure if what you meant that it is very strain dependent for pistils to turn brown and/or Trichs? I have read that determination by pistils is more inaccurate, whereas 50% amber Trichs is a dead on indication (the reason you'd need a magnifier) of harvest. Is this right??

Do you use only trichs as indicators? Do you wait for 50% amber? My understanding is that 50% amber is a ripe indicator indistinct of strain, and if you want a couchlock then get an resinous indica, and if you want mind-altering properties then go for a sativa...

Got some snowryder, looking out for the couchlock!

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Some strains NEVER turn amber and if you wait, you will lose it all. and see the trichs falling apart. Also, some strains every hair turns brown and still it is not ready. It is strain dependent as Michael said. And if you have never harvested before, how could you know better than someone that has harvested?
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Some strains NEVER turn amber and if you wait, you will lose it all. and see the trichs falling apart. Also, some strains every hair turns brown and still it is not ready. It is strain dependent as Michael said. And if you have never harvested before, how could you know better than someone that has harvested?



Hi J-angel..

Just the opposite, I'm not questioning him. I'm looking for help and advice! What made you think of the contrary???

Let's see if you can help me then.. If I can't rely on trichs (because it's strain dependent) nor in pistils, what do I do? Why would I look at with the magnifier at?

Thanks!! And again, I'm just looking for help and advice, no need to get the heads up!
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LOL! Not trying to argue with you at all. It is an indicater, not a positive. This is where experiance with a strain guides you. What I have done with different strains of mine is harvest at different stages and smoke the buds right away, small amounts. Dry as it says on the site in the microwave and then smoke it. This way you get to know what stage YOU like. I prefer to harvest when the trichs are all cloudy maybe a few amber. Too much amber makes me anxious. I get anxiety attacks so that is why I do that. Some people that use MMJ for pain prefer a lot of amber as this is more sedating. But you have to find what works for you.
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I guess you need to know what strain you are growing or, at least, have an idea.

Most strains are ready when a third of the trichomes are amber. If you go with that, you will be ok 95% of the time. Like I said before, only wait for 50% if you want a lot of extra potency. Many people don't like the effects of either couch-lock or heart-racing, which is the usual result. If I let my white widow go 50% amber, it will be more potent than I want. I like to smoke. So, I don't want stuff that will lay me out after two tokes.
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Thanks a lot!!

As I said, I've never harvested, I'm on the 4th week with two auto's (Snowryders), and I've done my research, but don't have any experience! So thanks for the input, it really helps!

J-Angel, I think you are soo right; Thing is I've read a lot but haven't done it, and I've just realized this mind of mine just messed up cloudy with amber, so yes, 50% amber is way too late (as far as I've read)

Michael, the strain is snowryder (I believe snow white = white widow, right??) since I wanted some autos for first time sake... just to make things a little simpler..

I would like an intermediate effect, leaning towards the couchlock rather than the trippy high.. Any suggestion on that?

So thanks again to both of you!!
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The only thing I know about auto-flowering cannabis is that it's no easier to grow than regular strains. You still have a dark/light cycle and you still need absolute darkness during the dark part of the cycle. So, how are they any easier?

1/3 amber is probably what you want. But, do what jangel says and test it.

Also remember, it will get stronger and taste better as it cures.
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Just check it out yourself...that is all we can tell you. Good luck.

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Just check it out yourself...that is all we can tell you. Good luck.

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The only thing I know about auto-flowering cannabis is that it's no easier to grow than regular strains. You still have a dark/light cycle and you still need absolute darkness during the dark part of the cycle. So, how are they any easier?
Hi michael..

Well, maybe not easier but the things that made it interesting for me where the following:

1- Absolute no experience in this. The autoflowering trait got me hooked, since it is less complex to time in lightcycles

2- The strain is not just a Lowryder, but a cross with snowwhite, and I had always wanted to get my hands on a nice Indica..

3- Small size, which is a huge factor in the small room I have

4- Short seed to Toke time!!

This did it for me. Maybe I'll try a regular strain on the next one!

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Either 24 hours on or 12 hours on and 12 hours off... that's complicated?

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I think most of them are crossed now. I've heard good things about the AK47 crosses.

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4- Short seed to Toke time!!
But, with regular cannabis, you make clones. Nothing beats clones for efficiency.

Whatever way you do it, though, it's a LOT better than paying full price, eh?
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Thanx guys I go buy a magnifying glass today!
Now how do you look AT the tricho. without cutting the plant.
Also when I do harvest do I just cut and smoke or hang them upside down. My question is for how long do I let them sit before I can smoke them???
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perhaps determining whether it is more indica or sativa dominant would help? what do the leaves look like? whats the shape? is it tall and thin or short and fat? how long did you veg? all needed info to make an accurate assessment. pics of your grow set up would help as well, pics highlighting the conditions of the grow area.
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You need to blow the image up aprox 30 X. Many of our members, including me, have had good luck with a little hand held scope you can get from radio shack for I think 12 dollars. Radio shack scope

You just pinch or cut off a sugar leaf and you can either take it to a table to look at or do it standing there. Or take the plant to a table and sit and do it. It takes some practice but they work well.

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