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09-12-2009, 01:42 AM
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Rep Power: 34 | | help Hey all, I知 about a week or so into my flowering phase with a plant that ive been growing out doors and I知 worried about some leaves that have started to turn yellow and some other leaves towards the top of my plant that have been starting to turn white (towards the ends of the leaves). I知 a newbie to this so I知 not sure if this is something to be concerned about or not. I searched around here to find out about the yellow leaves and going by the pictures I think it may be a lack of nitrogen or sulfate but if it is one of those things, how would I help cure this? I took some pics cuz I figured that壇 be the easiest thing to do rather then trying to describe it. Please help! The first one you can see the white markings on the leaves kinda towards the right, the second is the yellow leaves and the third i figured i'd add in. It's these bugs that i've been finding on the plant. This guys green but there are other with just like it with red and green markings on them. They've been there for a while so I dont think they're causing any harm but i figured i'd add it anyway just incase. | 
09-12-2009, 08:22 AM
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This link might help with the white stuff on the leaves...Its looks like powdery mildew. http://greenpassion.org/showthread.p...powdery+mildew
The yellow leaves look they are getting old and its time for them to yellow,the new growth looks good and healthy so I wouldnt suggest adding N .
What do you feed them? Do you have any epsom salt? Might not hurt to add some to your water occasionally
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09-12-2009, 09:12 AM
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I have seen those white marks on some of my plant. I think they are bird droppings. On my plants they never did any harm at all, it never got worse and they just wash off. It is kind of like thin white wash. Not to worry about that. I agree with Pineboy about the leaves. I see they are in a pot as well as outside. It could indicate a shortage of some trace nutes. What are you feeding them? If they only have that small pot to get food from they could be hungry. I would add something with a low N (first number) to them. and add some molasses to your water, as well as 1 tbls per gallon of epsom salts. That should help them. They look good. Take off those yellow leaves and keep an eye on the new growth to see if the problem reacurs.
Those little bugs are thrips. They can suck some jusices out of the buds and leaves. You can use Diatomaceous earth on the leaves. Or neem oil has a limited use as well. This will get rid of a few but they will come back. I get those all the time, and outside, not much you can really do about it. They are kind of like a cloud of little flying things that rise up when you come near the plant. They are sucking insects so they could be the cause of the circular marks on the leaves. Wiki thrips Diatomaceous earth Pest control
Diatomite is also used as an insecticide, due to its physico- sorptive properties. The fine powder absorbs lipids from the waxy outer layer of insects' exoskeletons, causing them to dehydrate. Arthropods die as a result of the water pressure deficiency, based on Fick's law of diffusion. This also works against gastropods and is commonly employed in gardening to defeat slugs. However, since slugs inhabit humid environments, efficacy is very low. It is sometimes mixed with an attractant or other additives to increase its effectiveness. Medical-grade diatomite is sometimes used to de-worm both animals and humans. It is most commonly used in lieu of boric acid, and can be used to help control and eventually eliminate a ****roach infestation. This material has wide application for insect control in grain storage.
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09-12-2009, 12:36 PM
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Rep Power: 34 | | So far I致e just been giving them water, so most likely they are hungry! Would you recommend feeding them the, low dose of nitrogen, molasses and epsom salt mix daily, or should I start a cycle with it like every other day? Also would I just mix the Diatomite with water and use it as a spray for the leaves? | 
09-12-2009, 02:39 PM
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yep it looks like bird doodie.
a lil molasses in a water solution(1 tbl/gal)will perk her right back up and provide carbs as well.
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09-12-2009, 11:47 PM
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That's 1 teaspoon per gallon of epsom salts, methinks. Don't use it unless there is a clear Mg deficiency. I usually give it to them in a foliar spray. It's easier that way to give them just what they need and no more.
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You should not water them every day unless they are dry. Only water when dry, not just because you do it every day. That could cause severe root problems if they are too wet.
Do you have any nutes at all? If not, then may I suggest that you get some bonemeal and molasses. Just sprinkle some bonemeal on the surface of the soil before watering. Then water with one to two tablespoon per gallon of water of molasses. Only when they are dry.
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I torture mine... I don't water until they start to droop. They make trichomes to conserve water, I believe.
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09-13-2009, 07:27 PM
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Great, thanks everyone for your help! those white marks are already gone after a hard rain and i'm headin out tonight to try some of that Diatomaceous earth for the bugs. I also bought me some molasses and epsom salts today  Thanks again! i'll let y'all kno wat turns out
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09-13-2009, 08:41 PM
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ok, so i sprayed em, I think i might have had white flys too cuz i saw a few small ones buzzing around when the plant got sprayed. Is it cool to spray the buds too cuz i dont wana accidently mess them up in anyway (obviously). and I didn't spray the plants off with water or anything after I sprayed the Diatomaceous earth water mix, I just left it on there. Please lemme kno if anything I did here sounds wrong. sorry for all the questions I just wana make sure i do this right
thanxs!
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They will be fine, sweetie. Where they still wet? It is good if you are foliar feeding to do it early in the morning before the sun comes out. You are right, but the buds should be okay cause they are pretty small yet. Don't spray the buds. It can cause mold. Next time you water, add the same stuff to the water as well. It is all good. Let me know how it goes. See if you can find a picture of the bugs. Check wikipedia under white fly and also check out thrips as there are different colours of them.
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kk, thanxs 4 the info, i'll let you kno what comes out of all this, hopefully it'll all work out
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