Hey, i'm new to this site, so bear with me... me and a friend just started growing some bag seeds. we first had 5 germinated seeds planted in solo cups with cactus soil, has a little bit of sand to help hold water, has some sponge or pearlite stuff in it, and has a good amount of NPK and the right pH with 2 24" flouros over them in a space slightly bigger than 2'x2' (picture 1)

now we have gotten 2 rubbermaid containers (1 for later, when plants get taller). we painted 1 with that fusion flat white paint for plastic. and mounted the light to the top. (pictures 2 and 3). with the plants underneath of course.

we plan on getting 6 CFL's and mounting 1 on each end and 2 on each side, or maybe a 3 bulb fixture on each side. any suggestions on mounting and wiring those?

we now have 13 seeds planted (pic 4)

2 sprouted this morning (pic 5 and 6)

any suggestions at all?

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looks like you are off to a good start. my only suggestion (and i wont be the only one to tell you this) is to get a fan in there sooner than later. wiring up cfl's isnt too much of a problem you just have to splice 2 wires together. I'd say other than getting some airflow in there you are doing just fine. i hope i can help you with anything else in the future as im about a month into my first grow so all the info ive been absorbing is somewhat fresh in my mind. good luck.

nice setup. good luck. 16 plants wow u well find a good mother if your going to clone. p.s sorry i cant help u but theres people here that can help with everything. check out my post maybe something there can help you.

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well its really cold in my house, the house is kept around 68-70 so i figure i dont need a fan until i get the CFL's in there, because theres no light on yet, the plants are in the dark until they sprout, even with those 24" flouros, they dont produce hardly any heat. but i do plan on putting fans in there when i get more lights.

also, on another forum someone told me not to use pre-nuted soil...but it doesnt seem like it matters much considering 2 of my seeds have sprouted. what do you think?

thank you for being nice and helpful!

i'll keep this thread going throughout my grow for sure, i'll definitely need help all along the way!

i plan on cloning and lst'ing. i've done some research on how to LST, doesnt seem too ha rd, but the cloning i have yet to research, im pretty sure its not that easy to clone though. any help on cloning would be appreciated!

also i dont expect all those plants to grow succesfully, i'm going for 1 female/mother out of all those plants, then i can clone it and have as many as i want, right?
which i plan on having 4 nice sized plants in the space i have

Rein, ive heard the same thing about the soil. I am actually using Mircle Gro organic it has enough nutes to slowly feed the plants over 2 months. i have only fed my plants extra nutes once and they are pretty healthy.
im going to transplant it into a surrounding of a nuetral soil-less mix before i flower so i dont have any nute problems like some have said.
The soil only proves problematic later in the game so in my opinion if you have a 2 month steady low nute being provided by the soil as long as you dont re use the same soil before flowering you should be fine.

seedlings don't need nutes at first, they carry some stored food in the seed to get started...I don't know if nutes will cause any problems other than some stretch...which is easily cured by repotting....you said you were in your parent's house I believe....not to be a downer but do you have permision?....(please ignore if you a letting your parents stay at your house) were you to be found out for some reason (god forbid) you are putting your parents at risk for having the house confiscated under fed and some state laws, or perhaps some lesser inconveniences...not cool....also if you succeed the smell will be considerable at flower...you must consider that as you will have to make provisions for smell in less than two months

ok i lied im not in my parents house

well did you use that from the seed? or did you use some other kind of soil at first. i dont understand soil-less mix, how or why to use it. should i use it now or later or at all?

a soil-less mix is usually just a substitute for soil. same properties and basically the same actions are taken for both soil and soil-less. It is normally used by those trying to get as neutral of a base as possible. i started a few seeds in soil-less and a few in the miracle gro i have, and achieved basically the same results.

but what were u saying about having problems later in the plants life with soil rather than soil-less?

ohhhh no no, i was saying that the soil that has its own nutes in it could prove to be problematic in the future, as its providing un-needed nutes.

hmm so what do you suggest i do? keep my seeds where they're at? this is miracle grow enriched cactus soil...sounded good for mary j. idk though, gotta go to work, i'll check this tonight

look on the back of the bag for the ingredients it should give a percentage of nitrogen, phosphorous, and potasium as well as any other compost structures used in making the mix i.e. peat moss, perlite, etc. etc.

Make sure what ever you use you add 40% perlite. It needs the added air in the soil. And no nutes at least until the first leaves, the coloidals, also called water leaves, fall off.

And I am so glad you started a thread. Welcome to Green Passion! Nice to have you aboard.

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So, do your parents know you are growing in their house? If so, alrighty.. if not you either need to tell them or move it some place else. I am not trying to break your balls.. just saying that anyone you are living with should know what you have going on there. They assume the risk too by being under the same roof.

Good luck!

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so what should i do now? the lights are on and the 2 sprouts seem to be doing alright, what should i do about the pearlite?

quit with the parents crap.

LOL! yea personally i don't really care, but they are just trying to be polite. worst case scenario you could lose your house. but i dont think that happens often, and if someones watching you its cause of something you did prior so for now i'd just do what you think is best.

dont worry about perlite till you transplant those things. just fill the pot a little more than half way with soil and then fill to an inch from the top with perlite and then mix it up. (thats what i do makes for simple measurements) you can also add some perlite or stone to the bottom of the pot first to help with drainage.

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dont worry about perlite till you transplant those things. just fill the pot a little more than half way with soil and then fill to an inch from the top with perlite and then mix it up. (thats what i do makes for simple measurements) you can also add some perlite or stone to the bottom of the pot first to help with drainage.[/quote]


NO NO NO!!!!

Pot does not need rocks in the bottom! That is for houseplants. That takes up valuable space for soil. Once your roots get all intangled in the rocks you have to get them out, and that can damage your plant.

Think of it this way. Say you have a 4 in. deep pot, with rocks in the bottom, that plant will end up in a pot say 20 inches deep. Where will the rocks be then? 4 inches from the top. NO! You need soil in the bottom all the way down. I have had a slight problem with soil washing out, but nothing major. maybe a 1/4 teaspoon per pot, if that. Nothing to worry about. Once the roots hit the bottom, and they will, all the soil will stay in place and a well mixed soil has perlite right to the bottom which will hold that soil in place. And please, mix the soil in a bowl or rubbermaid container. The only way you can truely mix it evenly is in a container bigger than your pot. Do the ratio, eg, add 6 parts of the main mix of soil or soiless mix, then 4 parts of the perlite, or there abouts. If there is some perlite in the soil, see how much, then adjust accordingly, so say it says 10% perlite, then just add 30 percent more, not 40. It is not a carved in stone process. Please use the info you get on the bag.

Reinstorm, leave them where they are for now. If they look fine, they are fine. BUT when you see roots coming out the bottom THEN transplant. And use the right soil then. Otherwise, leave them alone they will be fine.

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Hey ReinStorm,

Welcome to GP.

The best advice I can give, is to read the FAQ's. We have our own faq's and the Classic Overgrow FAQ's. The links are on the left side of the GP homepage. The information in the faq's has gotten me to produce some very fine smoke. Browsing the faq's can be quite fun and informative. Enjoy.

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