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09-05-2009, 10:24 PM
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I am puzzled by all the debate about medical marijuana.
People use MJ (pot, hashish, bhong, the magic dragon, etc.) to alter their brain functioning, their consciousness, to induce euphoria, to “get high,” to create an artificial heaven (heaven is being stoned). MJ is a psychotropic drug.
Like any drug, MJ can be therapeutic, but can also be toxic and even lethal if its dosage, frequency and duration of use are not controlled. The THC content of MJ is not standard or uniform or predictable. “BC bud,” at 6 percent, has more than Colville mountain pot. “Punk” can be up to 25 percent THC. The toxicity of MJ is largely unmeasurable and uncontrollable.
That’s why educated and truly compassionate physicians prescribe marinol or dronabinol, which come in capsule or pill form. Dosage is thus measured, controllable and therapeutic. The toxic effects of leaf MJ are largely avoided.
And so I ask, why don’t medical MJ users take their THC in pill or capsule form? The registered pharmacist is easier and cheaper to deal with than the shadowy medical MJ dealers or street dealers, and marinol/dronabinol usage would almost eliminate MJ emergency room usage (16 percent of drug-related ER patients). James J. Flynn Spokane  Now, I left a comment, but this guy really needs to be educated! So much misinformation in such a short letter! Anyone else up to correcting his errors? A futile task, most likely, but we gotta try!
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09-05-2009, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Storm Crow http://www.spokesman.com/stories/200...pot-in-a-pill/ September 5, 2009 in Letters Why not pot in a pill?
The Spokesman-Review
I am puzzled by all the debate about medical marijuana.
People use MJ (pot, hashish, bhong, the magic dragon, etc.) to alter their brain functioning, their consciousness, to induce euphoria, to “get high,” to create an artificial heaven (heaven is being stoned). MJ is a psychotropic drug.
Like any drug, MJ can be therapeutic, but can also be toxic and even lethal if its dosage, frequency and duration of use are not controlled. The THC content of MJ is not standard or uniform or predictable. “BC bud,” at 6 percent, has more than Colville mountain pot. “Punk” can be up to 25 percent THC. The toxicity of MJ is largely unmeasurable and uncontrollable.
That’s why educated and truly compassionate physicians prescribe marinol or dronabinol, which come in capsule or pill form. Dosage is thus measured, controllable and therapeutic. The toxic effects of leaf MJ are largely avoided.
And so I ask, why don’t medical MJ users take their THC in pill or capsule form? The registered pharmacist is easier and cheaper to deal with than the shadowy medical MJ dealers or street dealers, and marinol/dronabinol usage would almost eliminate MJ emergency room usage (16 percent of drug-related ER patients). James J. Flynn Spokane  Now, I left a comment, but this guy really needs to be educated! So much misinformation in such a short letter! Anyone else up to correcting his errors? A futile task, most likely, but we gotta try!
Granny | I am not sure I'll be able to stop myself, even if I wanted to. About to drop some science on this half-wit who obviously has already reached someone impressionable with this nonsense. Toxicity???? OMFG!!!   
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09-05-2009, 11:18 PM
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You answered him so well, good for you Storm Crow. I would love to write a comment and will see if I can come up with the words... It truly amazes me when people talk of what they do not know...
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09-06-2009, 12:45 AM
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Finished up with my soliloquy, posted it up. Had to break it into two parts for character limitations.
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"In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity."
"Buy the ticket, take the ride."
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09-06-2009, 12:49 AM
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I bet he moonlights as a Doctor or Lobbyist for the Pharma's. That would be their(the Pharma's) slant on MJ.
And where did he come up with 16% of drug related Emerg visits are MJ related. LMAO.
C/P The federal DAWN report itself notes that reports of marijuana do not mean people are going to the hospital for a marijuana overdose, it only means that people going to the hospital for a drug overdose mention marijuana as a drug they use. Since marijuana is the most widely used illegal drug it is the most mentioned illicit drug when people come to the hospital for any reason. Also, alcohol-in-combination is a larger problem than any of the illicit drugs. | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to zekester For This Useful Post: | | 
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punk???? i guess he wanted to say skunk.. these people are so misinformed and outdated... Quote: |
Like any drug, MJ can be therapeutic, but can also be toxic and even lethal if its dosage, frequency and duration of use are not controlled.
| o really... lethal huh?
if he did some in depth research instead of arms length research and relying on media and other hear-say he'd know alot more about WHY people smoke pot over using synthetic thc... theres so much more to a joint than just thc bro... realy!
these guys have a say?... yet if we go there with fact we'd get beaten up for being potheads, yet myths and legends have the run of the farm... im impressed
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Originally Posted by zekester I bet he moonlights as a Doctor or Lobbyist for the Pharma's. That would be their(the Pharma's) slant on MJ.
And where did he come up with 16% of drug related Emerg visits are MJ related. LMAO.
C/P The federal DAWN report itself notes that reports of marijuana do not mean people are going to the hospital for a marijuana overdose, it only means that people going to the hospital for a drug overdose mention marijuana as a drug they use. Since marijuana is the most widely used illegal drug it is the most mentioned illicit drug when people come to the hospital for any reason. Also, alcohol-in-combination is a larger problem than any of the illicit drugs. | That was my instinct, upon reading. Just the style and brevity, coupled with uncorroborated support for Pharma. versions hint, at this fact. I have had stints as an investigative journalist, and my dogs were barking!  
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09-06-2009, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by zekester I bet he moonlights as a Doctor or Lobbyist for the Pharma's. That would be their(the Pharma's) slant on MJ.
And where did he come up with 16% of drug related Emerg visits are MJ related. LMAO.
C/P The federal DAWN report itself notes that reports of marijuana do not mean people are going to the hospital for a marijuana overdose, it only means that people going to the hospital for a drug overdose mention marijuana as a drug they use. Since marijuana is the most widely used illegal drug it is the most mentioned illicit drug when people come to the hospital for any reason. Also, alcohol-in-combination is a larger problem than any of the illicit drugs. | This is one of the first things I found on the author. This is info from 1996, but I am going to continue digging for more recent info.
James J. Flynn of Spokane has been appointed to the Governor's Council on Substance Abuse. Flynn, a registered substance abuse counselor, has been working in this field for 25 years. Since his beginning as Spokane County Court's founding director of Rehabilitative Services in 1971, he served a long career as a probation officer before retiring and becoming a counselor. Past and present professional affiliations include the Washington State Traffic Safety Commission's DWI Task Force, the Spokane County Substance Abuse Advisory Board and the Spokane County Mental Health Advisory Board. His term expires in 1998.
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"In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity."
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09-06-2009, 01:28 AM
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1) fry daddy or similar cooker with very good temp control
2) oil of choice (I use safflower)
3) grinder for very dry BUDS, remember it is medicinal quality and leaf wont cut it here.
4) jelly bags (found in canning section of grocery store)
5) a press to extract the oil from material
Grind the buds (any amount will work as you will see) and place in cooker.
Cover ground buds with no more than 1/4" with oil of choice.
Set control to 200* and allow to "steep" for 24 hr. minimum, stirring occasionally.
allow to cool and press. I put the oil back in the container it came in.
repeat the above process, but this time use the "old" oil and run it again over new ground buds, adding new oil as needed to achieve the 1/4" coverage.
press a second time, and cap-em-quick
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How OLD is this guy, if he was Founding Director of whatever in 1971??
Hollllllyyyyyy!!!!
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Out of touch obviously. Back then it was Heroin, how he came to include MJ as TOXIC, HoLLLLYYY again, lol.
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Originally Posted by Jigsy420 This is one of the first things I found on the author. This is info from 1996, but I am going to continue digging for more recent info.
James J. Flynn of Spokane has been appointed to the Governor's Council on Substance Abuse. Flynn, a registered substance abuse counselor, has been working in this field for 25 years. Since his beginning as Spokane County Court's founding director of Rehabilitative Services in 1971, he served a long career as a probation officer before retiring and becoming a counselor. Past and present professional affiliations include the Washington State Traffic Safety Commission's DWI Task Force, the Spokane County Substance Abuse Advisory Board and the Spokane County Mental Health Advisory Board. His term expires in 1998. | | 
09-06-2009, 02:37 AM
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yes, this is what we will have to put up with until this particular generation and line of thought dies out... literally
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James Flynn http://www.classmates.com/directory/...gId=7566368392 http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...ze8RPMmfO-08GA James J. Flynn of Spokane has been appointed to the Governor's Council on Substance Abuse. Flynn, a registered substance abuse counselor, has been working in this field for 25 years. Since his beginning as Spokane County Court's founding director of Rehabilitative Services in 1971, he served a long career as a probation officer before retiring and becoming a counselor. Past and present professional affiliations include the Washington State Traffic Safety Commission's DWI Task Force, the Spokane County Substance Abuse Advisory Board and the Spokane County Mental Health Advisory Board. His term expires in 1998. http://www.spokesman.com/stories/200...ments=1#c66192 | | The Following User Says Thank You to SomeDude For This Useful Post: | | 
09-06-2009, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by zekester How OLD is this guy, if he was Founding Director of whatever in 1971??
Hollllllyyyyyy!!!!
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Out of touch obviously. Back then it was Heroin, how he came to include MJ as TOXIC, HoLLLLYYY again, lol.
. | I don't know that the drug of choice in 1971 was heroin, I was thinking it was marijuana and acid,,, Being out of touch yes he is, his problem, he is not willing enough to do the research and educate himself. It's not his age or generation, it just all boils down to, if you are going to speak out against or for something you dam well should do the research..JMO
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09-06-2009, 09:03 AM
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He is probably one of those types that expects his wife to have dinner on the table ready to go when "Ward" gets home at nice. Then chokes down a 1/5th of bourbon afterwards and beats the crap out of her and the kids..
This isn't the 50's ward.. Hell, This isn't even the 20th century anymore.. wake up you ignorant bastard
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I tried to see things from his point of view. But, I couldn't get my head that far up me arse.
How can this guy be a drug counselor, of all things? He's supremely ignorant where drugs are concerned. It would be like me being a choreographer or a dentist or anything else I know nothing about, whatsoever.
Unfortunately, you will never change this guy's mind (I use the word "mind" somewhat loosely). All you can do is counter his nonsense with truth in the hopes of countering his message in the minds of other readers.
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let's all just fill up the comments on that link with just how full of crap he really is..
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