CANADIAN government if your reading this get off your duff and open your mind to alternative healing medication as we all know as medical MJ.......LEGALIZE IT

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USATODAY.com - Spray alternative to pot on the market in Canada


I wonder if there is enough THC in this product to cure something for someone Has anyone here ever taken this?

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Hi there fights, Sativex has been available for awhile in Canada and has been offered to folks with MS primarily according to my MD. I looked into this drug a bit and decided I'd had enough of pharmaceuticals and can no longer trust them.

I have not heard too much by way of patients who had tried it.

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Yes MS patients, at a cost from what I'm reading now, grrrrrrrrrrr....what can we do, and where can I go and what can I sign or say to help OUR MJ community get this plant legalized? Geezzzzz it's a freakin plant, and some people won't even use it, so the drug companies won't loose that much money.....I wonder what would happen if WE all stopped buying and getting prescription drugs for a year....hmmmm I'm sure they would survive, because they would be selling the BUD too, what about healing people doesn't our government get, they can't be that stupid..hmmmmmm......well that's my rant for the day....gosh Im in a mood today..lol.

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Wow...I only *WISH* I could find a Doctor in Ottawa that would be willing to prescribe me MMJ. I've had back and neck pain for years. My current quack only wants to give me all kinds of prescription/chemical junk link oxycontin, etc. That sucks...oh well...so much for organic or homeopathic medicine....

Anyone else here from Ottawa??? ;)

-MH

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DPL / MMAR Holder? Looking for information? Frustrated??? PM me and let's chat!

Hi Micha I think I have seen you on the Toronto TCC forums too.

Your doctor is not really prescribing mmj to you for the MMAR application. He/she is only acknowledging that you have found an alternate form of pain relief that he/she cannot provide via pharmaceuticals. Once this is established you are really only communicating amounts needed in order to establish quantities to grow in your home or through a designated grower. 1-whatever grams/day usage.

If you need specific help with forms or ideas to communicate this to your doctor please pm me as I would be happy to assist you.

It was a very intimidating process and I had much help from many people myself. The main reason I decided to try to get my MMAR was I could not afford to buy my meds through a dispensary. The second reason was to be legal so I didn't fear being dragged out of my home for growing or posessing something that helps me.

Take care.

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Thanks lucky...I appreciate the feedback. It's not that I'm intimidated at all, I currently have a DP license (DPL) so know what's required on that side. As for the MMAR posession (rather than storage), that's what I'm working on. My doc would much rather prescribe something called "safe", such as "effexor", rather than MJ. That is the scary/sad situation in my opinion.

It all seems so unenlightened...

-MH

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I hear you on that one. I was on the pharma band wagon for almost 7 years till I jumped the hell off of it!

How many plants is your current license for? And what are you growing currently? How about starting a journal in here to help some new folks learn from your grow experience?

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Hi I8ntLucky_URIm a 22 year old male and about 2 years ago I got hurt at work while lifting something heavy and my shoulder dislocated of its socket and my arm was basically hanging from my side. I went through Worker's Compensation And Had A Claim Number and everything And Was put on light Duties at the time. I went to physiotherapy for 3-4 months and after that I noticed that physio was a waste of time and was not helping me and I sucked up the pain and now its jsut getting annoying everytime I use my arm for extended periods of time and me being in the construction industry is ALL the time when I get home im in loads of pain and ive taken advils, tylenol #3, Some oxy's(From a Buddy) and the oxys ****ed my stomache up yea i felt no pain but i also felt like i jsut drank 2 bottles of vodka... Ive smoked MJ for 3 years now and when ever I have a headache Or my Shoulder is killin me (Even on Damp days outside the weather makes my arm KILL) My back Constantly is cracking I guess from Work and all the Lifting and bending Ido all day But after i smoke my joint when i get home its the only thing that makes me feel that the pain isnt there and makes me sleep like a baby... So from this if I were to gointo a doctors office one who deals with Medical MJ.. Hes gunna look at me like im some punk that wants to get high because of my age... Like I dont know how to approach a doctor being the age that i am and telling him its the only thing that ive tried that works You know wat i mean... please give me some suggestions on how abouts I can Go and get the process started.. Thank You so Much for your time

First off kush_king87 I'm sorry you got hurt and are in pain. At least you are on the right path with finding mj a better solution for treating your pain. I agree about the oxcy's and most other pharma's don't leave you feeling well sometimes.

As far as the doctor there is no certain way to approach them so they understand you and your situation completely. And when you are in pain you are already cautious when asking for help with pain management as you don't want to be seen as someone just looking to get high. This is a big problem for someone in pain.

Does your doctor know you medical history including the dislocation accident and associated WSIB claims? Is there just a GP involved or was there any orthopedic or other specialists referred? I would be cautious about telling a doctor you took some oxcy's from a friend. That stuff is normally given for chronic or permanent pain management and rarely for a short term due to it's highly addictive properties. I understand trying it but a doctor might easily consider that recreational and then taint the picture for future discussion about mmj.

This process is daunting for almost everyone I've talked to that were successful and the many others that were not. It takes a gr8t deal of time and effort which for some very sick they don't have the time so in essence the process is flawed. I guess what I'm saying is it may take some time and frustration may be a factor but it can be done. If there are only 3000 Candians legal there must be 500,000 who could be or should be.

I hope that is a start. Please post answers to those questions so we can continue and thanks for the interest in the thread. Be well.

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Do you know that the kind of pain you describe can be exacerbated greatly if you use anything with aspartame in it, such as diet drinks, and coffee sweetener? Many foods have it and/or MSG . Read labels carefully. Your doctor may want to know if you have done these basic things before approving your application.

Does your doctor know you medical history including the dislocation accident and associated WSIB claims? Is there just a GP involved or was there any orthopedic or other specialists referred?

When I got hurt I went to a walk-in clinic.. I havent went to my family doctor in years becuase I moved cities and Ive been usually dealing with the walk in clinic down the street from my house...
The only other Kind of doctor i guess i ever went to for the problem was the physiothereapist...

About the Oxys I would Not tell him about me trying them... But if they were offerd (EVER) I would refuse Right away Idont like pills Swallowing them I mean and I think they eats away at your stomache anyway...
Like I cant stress enuff that im not just trying to get high... Cuz either with or withought the Card Im going to smoke it regardless of the consequences and I dont plan on stopping because I dont see the pain just getting up and leaving my body any time soon so for as long as the pain is here im smoking... Ive been charged once with possesion and hae been hassled the first time ever and told the officer its for my shoulder hoenstly or I wont be able to sleep...And hes like thats Fine and let me Keep it witch I thought was weird... But anyways I just dont wana deal with the hassle of police anymore if im not using it for a bad reason to go get stoned and hang around with friends drive around high and stuff like that I hope you understand what im getting at... Thnx for the speedy respone I appreciate it.... I hope you get better aswell man!!


And As for the Eating Habbits That SCRIBBLERLARYY mentioned I dont drink Deit drinks No diet Cola No coffee sweetener I eat chinese food once in a while I no that has MSG even tho they say it doesnt but yea I eat healthy and im very picky eater so i dont eat bigmac and **** like that cuz i inspect everything i eat with a fine tooth comb for Veins and Fat on my meats...

If you are an active person the fats in meat won't hurt you. Neither will veins. The harm in meat comes from too much fats being absorbed. More exercise can help with that. Best is to never mix meat with carbs (veggies, starch, sugars, breads) during a day. Have a meat day or a carbs day but don't mix. Carbs cause your body to absorb the fats in meat. (Ref: Atkins Diet)

If you are active, therapy may not do much more than your normal activities will. If not, go back to therapy. Remember, no doctor will give you any help with your application unless you HAVE TRIED everything else first; and given it a fair try too! A doctor is not likely to just take your word for it either.

Hi there KK and I do understand what you are saying. You don't want to take pharma's and you know mj is helping you. Here's the thing with MMAR. The doctors are the "gate keepers" in this set up. This is why so few Canadians have it. I unfortunately had to exhaust years worth of try this and try that and take this test and have this shoved....

You will need to get a GP someone you can sit down with and build a relationship and understanding of who you are and why you want to choose mj as a "safe reliable" alternative to your pain. This will take some time. He/she will liely want you to take some tests, xrays and follow up appointments in order for he/she to determine this is the best thing for you.

This is your time to get informed and get the GP informed too! Tell the doctor this is important to you and the consequences of not getting legal are PRISON, loss of your employment, money you don't have for a legal defense, marital or family breakdown as a result of being arrested. And you should do that. You should take the time to get legal. We in Canada are close to having laws changed that would make growing 1 plant a minimum 1 year jail sentence.

Try and find a younger doctor someone that might be a bit more current with the idea of "alternative" medicine. You can meet with these people first and open a dialogue to discuss what you are hoping to accomplish. And let the doctor know you need him/her to be part of your health team.

I hope that helps don't get discouraged or frustrated make a plan and work through it. Just so you know if you can get a "letter of diagnosis" for your pain some local compassion centers would accept that from a doctor and even a Naturalpathic can sign them. At least you would have safer access to some quality meds albeit an expensive one.

Good luck and keep me posted as I would be here to help.

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Well I dont inspect my meat because im scared of getting fat ive never been fat ... I have had a bad experience with finding **** in my food like viens and **** and I dont like eating them because I start to gag if i feel them in my mouth.. Yes im Scared for life but hey everything i eat is 100 %

I will keep you guys posted!!thanks for the timely responses