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(NORTHERN Calif.) - Everyone knows about THC- it's the chemical in Cannabis that gets you high, and has a number of documented medical uses. However, because it makes you feel "much too good", many politicians and some doctors are against it. But there is more to Cannabis than plain old "get you high as a kite" THC. There are hundreds of chemicals in natural Cannabis. CBD, cannabidiol, is one of them.


As a psychoactive, get-you-stoned chemical, CBD is one great big flop! Almost no bounce to the ounce! A gentle "mellowing" effect is about the most you can expect even from a massive dose of CBD. But because it comes from the Cannabis plant, our government has banned it.


As a Cannabis plant grows, it produces a chemical that changes into either THC or CBD, depending on the plant's genetics. The recreational/medical strains are high in THC, but are usually very low in CBD. Fiber hemp plants tend to be the opposite- high in CBD with little or no THC.



CBD has many medical uses, and next to THC, it is the most studied of the natural cannabinoids. A 2005 study used CBD and delayed the onset of a form of ALS (Lou Gehrig's disease) in mice. In 2007, neuroscientist Dr. Mary Abood used a THC/CBD mixture and conducted a similar experiment. To her amazement-


"The treatment delayed disease progression by more than seven days and extended survival by six days. In human terms, this would amount to about three years. That's a significant improvement over the only existing ALS drug, riluzole, which extends life by two months."


Three years versus two months! If you had ALS, and were given the choice, would you choose the "conventional" treatment of riluzole, or would you try Cannabis? Could the two medicines compliment each other giving even better results? What would a larger dose of CBD do? Why are there are no studies on this?



Way back in 2001, in the Journal of Palliative Care, Drs. Carter and Rosen stated- "Marijuana is a substance with many properties that may be applicable to the management of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS). These include analgesia, muscle relaxation, bronchodilation, saliva reduction, appetite stimulation, and sleep induction. In addition, marijuana has now been shown to have strong antioxidative and neuroprotective effects, which may prolong neuronal cell survival. In areas where it is legal to do so, marijuana should be considered in the pharmacological management of ALS."


"In areas where it is legal to do so..." If you have ever seen anyone ravaged by ALS, you should be outraged that CBD is not available for all ALS patients. CBD won't get you high, but it may hold the key to ending the misery of ALS. It is time to reschedule cannabis so all the facets of this amazing plant can be freely researched.
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Awesome storm crow! Good for you! It is efforts such as your groundbreaking List which will turn this fight around evey where as we have seen in the past year. In time, let us pray everyone acknowledges that this works.

It is way past time.

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With great Research and medical successes, I sincerely hope that Cannabis is recognised for its Healing abilities and not just its "feel good feelings" (which are also ok and it seems people who smoke suffer less from Depression which seems to be a number one killer these days also).

Guess the Pharmacutical Companies and the Governments just havent found a way to make enough money out of it so they can legalise it! Makes you wonder who's side their on medically speaking?

Just wanted to say Thanks!!!!!!!!!

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I love seein these articles, specially when they show up in my local newspaper!

Granny, if you ever find yourself in the valley...without any medicine, Id love to chat over some homegrown to vape
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There is a group of people that are working with an experimental chemotherapy drug.

This drug is an extract of marijuana.

The problem is that current supply of marijuana in the US is lacking a key compound.

CBD

CBD is a compound that is similar to THC. Except that it doesn't get you high. In fact, pot that has CBD in it is considered to be a lower grade that those strains that do not have it. I have read that if you were to take 100mg of CBD and then smoke some regular pot, you would fail to get a pot "high."

In other words, CBD counteracts THC. It reduces the impact on the brain of THC.

The medical benefits of the two combined produce a whole set of medical benefits that are not seen with either by themselves.

CBD is very important if you are considering the medical benefits of marijuana. Case in point would be Sativex. Sativex is currently going through the process of gaining approval by the FDA. Sativex is a combination of THC and CBD in spray form. Approval is being sought for application against MS spasms.

Since CBD has been considered to be undesirable, most of the existing strains of marijuana have had this important compound bread out of that strain.

Industrial hemp is a set of strains of marijuana that have had the THC bread out of them. As a result of the efforts to bread the THC out of the plant many of the other very important compounds have been elevated. Some strains of industrial hemp may have more than 10% CBD content.

The combination of THC and CBD has been shown to have strong anti cancer effects.

We have all the THC we need for this experimental chemotherapy medicine. What we lack is the CBD.

If we can get the approval of state and federal governments, we could import the needed CBD from Canada. This could then be blended with extracts already being made here in Michigan to produce a much higher grade of this medicine.

This would be in the form of a black oily paste. There would be zero benefit of this material for the black market. You can not get high from it. It only has medical value.

We have an established network of caregivers in Michigan. I propose that this material be provided to these caregivers to blend into their own source materials for the purpose of making this chemotherapy medicine.

All of this could be done within thirty days. And by "All of this" I mean being able to provide this medicine to every terminal cancer patient in Michigan.

There is strong evidence from both science and human experiance to support this medicine being able to save peoples lives. This process is already ongoing. The people of Michigan support such work.

To proceed, we need a clear statement from AG Michael Cox that such usage and material conforms to the new medical marijuana law in Michigan. That since there is little to no THC content to the material, the concept of "reasonable amount" of this Canadian material would be unlimited provided none of it were to be used in any manor other than for medicine.

This statement needs to acknowledge that permission of the importation of this non psycoactive material rests with federal authorities.

CBD in the news:

Clinical phase III study with the cannabis extract
Cannador successful in multiple sclerosis

A clinical study with the standardized cannabis extract Cannador
was recently completed in 279 patients with multiple sclerosis
suffering from muscle stiffness under the guidance of Dr John
Zajicek, professor at the Peninsula Medical School, Plymouth/UK.
The study met its primary objective to show superiority of
Cannador over placebo in the treatment of muscle stiffness. The
cannabis extract was also superior to placebo with regard to
secondary efficacy parameters such as pain, muscle spasms,
quality of sleep, and questionnaires on severity of spasticity and
overall disability due to multiple sclerosis.

The study, which has been conducted in 22 centres in the UK,
was sponsored by the Society for Clinical Research, Germany,
and the pharmaceutical company Weleda, Switzerland. It was a
randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, phase III study, in
which 143 patients received the encapsulated cannabis extract
and 134 a placebo. Each capsule of Cannador contained 2.5 mg
THC (dronabinol) and about 1.25 mg CBD (cannabidiol). Patients
received the extract or the placebo for 12 weeks, of which the
first two weeks were used to find the individual dose of each
patient.

This article with preliminary information is based on the clinical
study report and was written in cooperation with the sponsors.
Detailed results will be presented at a conference in Duesseldorf
(ECTRIMS) in September and reported in an IACM-Bulletin
thereafter.

(Source: Personal communication by the Institute for Clinical
Research, Berlin)

Sativex in the news: ** Sativex is a combination of THC and CBD

UK: GW Pharmaceuticals
The British company GW Pharmaceuticals received commercial
manufacturing licence for its cannabis extract Sativex. A new
GW facility is initially able to produce quantities of Sativex
sufficient to treat 25,000 patients per year. In May, GW filed a
regulatory submission for Sativex for the treatment of spasticity
due to multiple sclerosis in the UK and Spain under the European
decentralised procedure. It is expected that an outcome of the
regulatory submission will be known towards the end of 2009 /
early 2010. (Source: Press release by GW Pharmaceuticals of 16
July 2009)
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Hi Peanutbutter

A very interesting read INDEED!
I also enjoyed the “CBD – The other Healing Cannaboid Part 1” by Strom Crow.

Since seeing Rick Simpsons DvDs and Vidoes on www.utube.com and speaking with other members on GP who have spoken with him personally – I agree that he is definitely onto something. His heart is in the right place and that’s the advantage of this website also – everyone gets together and discusses their meds and treatments, their cases and their progress, what worked best for them etc. So from every person we learn the path to recovery and or a life filled with love and your thoughts to share with your loved ones to the very end (If nothing else)? (Something that Chemo and Morphine will never give anyone. A conscious mind at the end of their journey).
I am also under the impression that sometimes there may be terminal illnesses that have been left too long before starting the Healing Hemp Oil Treatment or cases where Radiation and Chemotherapy have done that much damage that it may not be of benefit as a CURE for these people, but A WAY OF GIVING THEM QUALITY OF LIFE for as long as we can.

Either way, in all the Research I have been doing over the past two months, getting myself ready to begin the Healing Hemp Oil Experiment on my mother who has Bone Cancer (secondary caner). It seems that the CBD Cannaboids do compliment the THC cannaboids when fighting cancer cells.

As you mentioned above: If we were able to do this - Make a combinath of both THC and CBD then we would have an incredible medicine.

Imagine all the patients under the Great Hemp Oil Treatment by their loved ones who are experiencing problems in finding their correct TOLERANCE LEVEL. They don’t not like the sensation of any highs or strange feelings. (It appears this seems to becoming a major concern in many people DISCONTINUING their Treatment far too early).

So I would be inclined to think that combining CBD with THC (Made into the oil/paste in a shringe) and given to a Patient to ingest ORALLY at the amount Rick Simpson has recommended in his RUN FROM THE CURE DvDs/Videos on Utbue -would eliminate any highs or strange feelings for those patients who are having trouble dealing with taking Hemp Oil because of this factor.

My biggest question would be?

Ok, so we have the “KEY” to several different methods of extracting quality THC Oil/Hash Oil from either quality buds with Cloudy and Amber Trichomes or; from Kiff (left over leaves, fan leaves, any part of the plant except the stems). The end product is the MEDS which is given to the patient undergoing treatment for a period of 30-90days. (The suggested amount is to digest 60grams on Hemp Oil as soon as you can within a 90 day period - the faster and larger amounts the better).

So just imagine the success rate of more terminally ill patients undergoing Healing Hemp Oil Treatment with additional CBD?

Some other questions I would love someone to shed some light on for me as we all want to help our loved ones the best possible way. For those patients who are able to tolerate Hemp Oil it is wonderful, for other patients experiencing unpleasant side effects as highs and body stones would benefit with additional CBD cannaboids added to their THC.
  • Are the CBD cannaboids extracted from the Cannabis/Hemp plant at the same time the THC is extracted?
  • or; does CBD have to be extracted separately to THC?
  • Is the Extraction Method the same as THC Oil?
  • What are the methods of extracting CBD from plants and what parts of the plant contains the most CBD?
  • What is the compound (consistency) of CBD? (Is it a resin, a fine powder, an oil etc)
  • Is CBD found in the Trichomes and ifso, what colourings?

These are some of the questions I have been looking up over the past week.. It all seems to make sense. "HEMP IS A MEDICINAL MIRACLE PLANT"

I’m sure there will be lots of questions here as you and others have brought forward a VALID POINT. “CBD cannaboids play a COMBINDED role in the eradication of cancer cells”. Each and everyone of us has CBD and THC receptors in our bodies. Why would those receptors be there if we were not meant to have these cannaboids to support our immune systems. Don’t ya just love the way the big Pharmacuetical companies and Governments want to keep us in the dark – do they really think we are that studid!

Look forward to reading all the threads on this topic.

Glad this subject has been brought forward – another wonderful medicinal property found in natures Medicinal Marajuana! The Herb of the Future!!

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Hi Peanutbutter

A very interesting read INDEED!
I also enjoyed the “CBD – The other Healing Cannaboid Part 1” by Strom Crow.

Imagine all the patients under the Great Hemp Oil Treatment by their loved ones who are experiencing problems in finding their correct TOLERANCE LEVEL. They don’t not like the sensation of any highs or strange feelings. (It appears this seems to becoming a major concern in many people DISCONTINUING their Treatment far too early).

So I would be inclined to think that combining CBD with THC (Made into the oil/paste in a shringe) and given to a Patient to ingest ORALLY at the amount Rick Simpson has recommended in his RUN FROM THE CURE DvDs/Videos on Utbue -would eliminate any highs or strange feelings for those patients who are having trouble dealing with taking Hemp Oil because of this factor.
Agree. If nothing else, being positive of some CBD content would make it easier for a patient to tolerate higher THC dosage levels.

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My biggest question would be?

Ok, so we have the “KEY” to several different methods of extracting quality THC Oil/Hash Oil from either quality buds with Cloudy and Amber Trichomes or; from Kiff (left over leaves, fan leaves, any part of the plant except the stems). The end product is the MEDS which is given to the patient undergoing treatment for a period of 30-90days. (The suggested amount is to digest 60grams on Hemp Oil as soon as you can within a 90 day period - the faster and larger amounts the better).

So just imagine the success rate of more terminally ill patients undergoing Healing Hemp Oil Treatment with additional CBD?
Please understand. CBD is one specific cannabinoid. Many people talk about CBD's. Meaning several kinds of CBD. No such thing. CBD is CBD.

I read about the possibility that leaf from the plant might have a higher CBD content than the bud. There may be something to that. Not so much the quantity as a different ratio than in the bud.

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Some other questions I would love someone to shed some light on for me as we all want to help our loved ones the best possible way. For those patients who are able to tolerate Hemp Oil it is wonderful, for other patients experiencing unpleasant side effects as highs and body stones would benefit with additional CBD cannaboids added to their THC.
  • Are the CBD cannaboids extracted from the Cannabis/Hemp plant at the same time the THC is extracted?
  • or; does CBD have to be extracted separately to THC?
  • Is the Extraction Method the same as THC Oil?
  • What are the methods of extracting CBD from plants and what parts of the plant contains the most CBD?
  • What is the compound (consistency) of CBD? (Is it a resin, a fine powder, an oil etc)
  • Is CBD found in the Trichomes and ifso, what colourings?
It (not they) would extract exactly the same as the THC. CBD has a slightly higher boiling point than THC. So if the temperatures were high enough to have some THC loss in the extraction process, the THC would go away before the CBD did.
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When I first received my authorization, THCF had a video presentation that said that high concentrations of CBD were found in the stalks and could be crushed and powdered for use in capsules. I had heard there and elsewhere that taking a few of these pills, twice daily could have a posative effect on pain managment and other problems, with minimal "high" effect to help people get through thier day without the common side effects associated with THC... this was in 2007 and with what we've learned since, I'm surprised we haven't heard much on this as CBD gets more legit notice.

I've been saving stalks for a long time now... got about a brocery bag full. One of these days I'll figure out and have the time to finish the rest of that experiment.
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