http://www.greenpassion.org/ All natural cannabis... the organic way. en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:20:53 GMT vBulletin 1 http://www.greenpassion.org/images/family/misc/rss.jpg http://www.greenpassion.org/ http://www.greenpassion.org/f18/organic-soil-anyone-17174/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:17:04 GMT Organics for Beginners
Here are some tried and true recipes for getting started in organic growing. Pick one of the first two soiless mix recipes for your grow medium. Then, choose a nute recipe that will work best for what you have available.

Enjoy...

Here are two very good organic soiless mixes...

LC's Mix is great for any stage of growth. You can germ seeds in it, grow mothers in it, root clones in it as well as veg and flower in it.

LC’s Soiless Mix #1:
5 parts Canadian Spaghnam Peat or Coir or Pro-Moss
3 parts perlite
2 parts wormcastings or mushroom compost or home made compost
Powdered (NOT PELLETIZED) dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
...Wal-Mart now sells worm castings.

Or, if you use Pro Mix or Sunshine Mix...
LC's Soiless Mix #2:
6 parts Pro Mix BX or HP / Sunshine Mix (any flavor from #1 up)
2 parts perlite
2 parts earthworm castings
Powdered (NOT PELLETIZED) dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
If you use a 3 qt. saucepan as “parts” in the amounts given above, it equals about 1 cu. ft. of soiless mix and you can just dump in a cup of powdered dolomite lime.
But, a "part" can be anything from a tablespoon to a five gallon bucket. Just use the same item for all of the "parts".

Now for the plants organic food source

Choose one of these organic plant food recipes to add to LC's Soiless Mix.

RECIPE #1
If you want to use organic nutes like blood, bone and kelp...
Dry Ferts:
1 tablespoon blood meal per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
2 tablespoons bone meal per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
1-tablespoon kelp meal per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of soil mix or Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract as directed
(OPTIONAL) 1 tablespoon per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of Jersey Greensand to supplement the K (potasium) in the Kelp Meal and seaweed extract.
Mix all the dry ferts into the soiless mix well and wet it, but don't soak it with Liquid Karma and water @ 1 tbs./gal. Stir and mix it a few times a week for a week or two so the bacteria can get oxygen and break down the bone meal and make it available. And don't let the mix dry out, keep it moist and add water as needed. It'll also have time to get the humic acids in the Liquid Karma going and the dolomite lime will be better able to adjust the pH of a peat based mixture too.
With this recipe, all you need to do is add plain water until harvest.
When I'm working with seeds, I punch a hole in the bottom of 16 ounce cups and fill them with plain LC's Mix. Lightly wet the mix in the cups and germ one seed in each cup. At the same time I mix enough LC's mix along with the blood/bone/kelp to fill all the 3 gallon flower pots I'm going to use for the grow. After about two weeks, the seedlings and the blood/bone/kelp mix are ready. I transplant the seedlings into the 3 gallon pots and just add water until harvest.
When you go to flower and pull up the males, save the mix in the pots. It is ready to be used again immediately. Just remove the root ball and transplant another seedling into it.

RECIPE #2
If you want to use guano in your soil mix...
Bongaloid's Guano Mix.
Use all these items combined with one gallon of soil mix.
1/3C hi N Guano (Mexican Bat Guano)
1/2C hi P Guano (Jamaican or Indonesian Bat Guano)
1TBS Kelp Meal
(OPTIONAL) 1TBS Jersey Greensand

RECIPE #3 (My favorite)
If you want to use guano tea and kelp...

Guano Tea and Kelp:

Seedlings less than 1 month old nute tea mix-
Mix 1 cup earthworm castings into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
Add 5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses.
Use it to water your seedlings with every 3rd watering.

Veg mix-
1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (PSG)
1/3 cup High N Bat Guano (Mexican)
1/3 cup Earth Worm Castings (EWC)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 1 cup of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
Use it to water with every 3rd watering.

Flowering nute tea mix:
2/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano
2/3 cup Earth Worm Castings
2/3 cup High P Guano (Indonesian or Jamaican)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 2 cups of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
Use it to water with EVERY watering.

You can use queen size knee high nylon stockings for tea bags. 3 pair for a dollar at the dollar store. Tell 'em you use them for paint strainers. Put the recommended tea in the stocking, tie a loop knot in it and hang it in your tea bucket. The tea should look like a mud puddle. Agitate the bag in the water vigorously. An aquarium pump and air stone will dissolve oxygen into the solution and keep the good bacteria (microherd) alive and thriving. Let it bubble a day or two before you use it. If you find you are making too much tea and having to throw it out, use 2 1/2 gallons of water and cut the nute amount by half.


RECIPE #4
Three Little Birds Method
40 gallons used soil
4 cups alfalfa meal
4 cups bone meal
4 cups kelp meal
4 cups powdered dolomite lime
30 pound bag of earthworm castings . . .
That’s the basic recipe . . .
However we also like to use
4 cups of Greensand
4 cups of Rock Phosphate
4 cups of diatomaceous earth


RECIPE #5
Fish and Seaweed (This is sooo easy)

For veg growth…
1 capful 5-1-1 Fish Emulsion
1 capful Neptune's Harvest 0-0-1 Seaweed or Maxicrop liquid
1 gallon H2O

For early flowering…
1 tbs. Neptune’s Harvest 2-3-1 Fish/Seaweed
1 gallon H2O

For mid to late flowering…
1 tbs. Neptune’s Harvest 2-4-1 Fish
1 gallon H2O


And now for some more good tips...

Organic pH issues

I hear a lot of people asking or talking about the pH of their organic soil mix or organic nute solution and how they might correct or adjust it. pH in organics is not an issue like it is in synthetic growing.
The best place to settle the pH issues in organics is within the grow medium. A medium rich in humates (humus) is the place to start. Humates work to "buffer" the pH of organic mediums and the nutes you pour (or mix) into it.
Humates come from compost, worm castings and bottled humus. If you use a peat based medum, use dolomite lime to raise the pH of the acidic peat. Dolomite should be used in any soil or soiless medium to provide magnesium and calcium. But since we are talking about pH here, I'll mention dolomite lime's pH correction benefits.
A medium of coir has a pH near neutral (or 7.0). But humates are still neded to allow uptake of organic nutrients that are outside a near neutral pH range.
With an active medium rich in humates you can pour in nutes like Pure Blend Pro, Earth Juice and guano teas way outside the optimum pH range without worry. The humus will allow the nutes to be taken up through the roots, even at such an extreme pH reading.
So throw those pH meters away folks and enjoy the ease and safety of organic gardening.

Chlorine tap water

Just a word of caution for you organic heads out there...
If you are tapped onto a municipal water supply that uses chlorine to kill bacteria in the water, it'll do the same thing to the bacteria (microherd) in your organic food source.
Always bubble your municipal water in an open container (5 gallon bucket) for 24 hours before adding ANYTHING organic to it.

Flushing

There is absolutely no reason to "flush" organic nute solutions from your soil mix. In an organic grow, the plants don't take up the organic nutes (guano, bone, blood or kelp). The bacteria eat the organic nutes and excrete food that the plant can feed off of. So the organic nutes don't need to be flushed because they never enter the plant. And besides, meals like kelp, bone and blood along with worm castings and dolomite can't be flushed from your soil mix anyway. If you use guano and seaweed, try using plain water or worm casting tea for your last watering or two so the plant can use up what's left in the soil. But drowning your soil with water isn't necessary.

this post has been around for a long time,had it stored on a thumb drive and thought it might be useful to someone starting organic soil grows,i have followed soil mix #2 to a T with recipe #1 for nutes and it was very successful!!! hope this helps someone and good luck growing. ]]> Organic Growing anothertime http://www.greenpassion.org/f18/organic-soil-anyone-17174/ http://www.greenpassion.org/f18/how-kurk-russel-plants-soil-16901/ Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:59:11 GMT How Kurk Russel Plants in Soil (http://www.dropshots.com/ScooterBee#date/2009-11-11/07:33:24) :) How Kurk Russel Plants in Soil :) ]]> Organic Growing Lumix http://www.greenpassion.org/f18/how-kurk-russel-plants-soil-16901/ http://www.greenpassion.org/f18/bio-bizz-chart-16858/ Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:25:28 GMT Hi everyone thank you for taking the time to read this.

I have been using bio-bizz nutrients on my girls but noticed that the nutrient chart is rated for a 11 week flowering period
and my girls are only a 9 week strain, the chart says for the bloom phase to use certain amounts but i have noticed that
the amounts jump for the last 3 weeks of flowering, i will miss two of the last three weeks of nutrients so was wondering
can i jump to the larger amount for my last 2 weeks or should i stick to the feeding schedule?, i'm on week 7 of a 9 week
strain and don't want to miss out on better bud development due to lack of nutrients at the end of the bloom phase.

I use Bio-grow, bio-bloom and top-max.

Thanks in advance

Peace and light

McBong ]]> Organic Growing McBong http://www.greenpassion.org/f18/bio-bizz-chart-16858/ http://www.greenpassion.org/f18/molasses-16712/ Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:09:23 GMT i read the thread on it and the benefits has any ony tried it on low ryders? i read the thread on it and the benefits
has any ony tried it on low ryders? ]]> Organic Growing prettypurple http://www.greenpassion.org/f18/molasses-16712/ http://www.greenpassion.org/f18/free-organic-nutrients-samples-biobizz-16702/ Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:28:51 GMT go to (thebiobuzz.com) on left side of screen there is a button for free samples of their line up.the bottles they send are like 5oz bottles but they give you a few of each .every order gets different amounts .mine came with like 30 little bottles of grow,bloom,bio heaven ,plus a plastic measuring cup ,pens ,stickers,and a pad of paper.my mother in laws was not as much as I got ,and my other buddy got more than me .right now they are out of samples until like second week of november but you can still request them and will send to you when they get more???now everyone can try organic nutrients for free and if you like buy more from them???you dont pay shipping or anything 100%free!!!please everyone dont take advantage of this only ask for one set of samples.these samples are good for soilless,hydro wich ever way you grow they are fine!!!the reason I posted this was because there was another thread that some one started saying he only had molassass for nutrients ,and could get nothing different or anything else.I DONT WORK FOR BIOBIZZ I saw this on a different forum like two months ago and I made a request and recieved them in like 3 days from request.also the guy JACOB posted on that forum ,so he knows what they will be used for .They are based in HOLLAND but the U S office is in CHICAGO.SORRY ONLY PEOPLE IN THE U.S.A CAN GET THIS OFFER.Says on website no international shipping!!!But biobizz main office is in HOLLAND so you might be able to contact them to get samples ????well enjoy and happy and safe growing to all my G P friends!!!! PS mods you can put this anywhere you feel the need to.I just posted it here because it is the organic forums. go to (thebiobuzz.com) on left side of screen there is a button for free samples of their line up.the bottles they send are like 5oz bottles but they give you a few of each .every order gets different amounts .mine came with like 30 little bottles of grow,bloom,bio heaven ,plus a plastic measuring cup ,pens ,stickers,and a pad of paper.my mother in laws was not as much as I got ,and my other buddy got more than me .right now they are out of samples until like second week of november but you can still request them and will send to you when they get more???now everyone can try organic nutrients for free and if you like buy more from them???you dont pay shipping or anything 100%free!!!please everyone dont take advantage of this only ask for one set of samples.these samples are good for soilless,hydro wich ever way you grow they are fine!!!the reason I posted this was because there was another thread that some one started saying he only had molassass for nutrients ,and could get nothing different or anything else.I DONT WORK FOR BIOBIZZ I saw this on a different forum like two months ago and I made a request and recieved them in like 3 days from request.also the guy JACOB posted on that forum ,so he knows what they will be used for .They are based in HOLLAND but the U S office is in CHICAGO.SORRY ONLY PEOPLE IN THE U.S.A CAN GET THIS OFFER.Says on website no international shipping!!!But biobizz main office is in HOLLAND so you might be able to contact them to get samples ????well enjoy and happy and safe growing to all my G P friends!!!!
PS mods you can put this anywhere you feel the need to.I just posted it here because it is the organic forums. ]]> Organic Growing allen13 http://www.greenpassion.org/f18/free-organic-nutrients-samples-biobizz-16702/ http://www.greenpassion.org/f18/semi-urgent-soil-question-16627/ Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:16:00 GMT i say semi urgent, because if the answer to my question is a good one, *fingers crossed*, then i will be able to start my grow a lot sooner.

i live out in the country. plain and simple. across the street from me my neighbor(who is a really cool guy) has acres and acres of cornfields.
my question is, can i use the soil from the corn field to get my indoor grow started?

my understanding is that you do not need to feed the little guys for at least the first two weeks, but then after that, you can start them on a nute schedule.
what do you think? i know i could get enough from him for a 'project' in our front yard to warrant getting the soil, but i can't ask him about it, as far as growing cannabis goes. ]]> Organic Growing Sprocket http://www.greenpassion.org/f18/semi-urgent-soil-question-16627/ http://www.greenpassion.org/f18/any-state-maine-new-hampsire-growers-here-16487/ Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:00:05 GMT Evening All

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They Can Stay Hidden Completely! ]]> Organic Growing ChrisOLP http://www.greenpassion.org/f18/any-state-maine-new-hampsire-growers-here-16487/ http://www.greenpassion.org/f18/what-proportion-dolomite-lime-per-gallon-soil-16398/ Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:06:24 GMT What is the proportion of Dolomite Lime per gallon of soil? Thanks What is the proportion of Dolomite Lime per gallon of soil?
Thanks ]]> Organic Growing Lumix http://www.greenpassion.org/f18/what-proportion-dolomite-lime-per-gallon-soil-16398/ http://www.greenpassion.org/f18/what-do-you-use-keep-soil-compacting-16277/ Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:24:37 GMT What do you use to keep the soil from compacting?

Lava Rock
Agricultural Perlite
?

Both aren't cheap

Any alternatives?
Thanks ]]> Organic Growing Lumix http://www.greenpassion.org/f18/what-do-you-use-keep-soil-compacting-16277/